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| Supreme Court Shuts Door On Trump Election Prospects - 'Texas Has No Standing' |
| 2020-12-12 |
| [NPR] The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday night rejected an eleventh hour challenge to Joe Biden's election as president. The court's action came in a one-page order, which said the complaint was denied "for lack of standing." "Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections," the court wrote. Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justice Clarence Thomas, wrote that in their view the court does "not have discretion to deny the filing of a bill of complaint in a case that falls within our original jurisdiction." "I would therefore grant the motion to file the bill of complaint but would not grant other relief, and I express no view on any other issue," Alito wrote. On Tuesday, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sued four states where Biden had been certified the winner: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. The suit, filed directly in the Supreme Court, was styled as "an original" case, pitting one state against another. |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #32 We have standing. Standing like scarecrows, mute, inert Standing by the side of the road, after the Bus of the Republic has left, not to return Standing on a darkling plain -- Swept by alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant shitheads clash by night |
| Posted by: Neville tse Tung5115 2020-12-12 19:49 |
| #31 So who has? The Trump campaign, among others. See more here. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2020-12-12 19:43 |
| #30 California demanding water rights from its neighbors. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2020-12-12 18:37 |
| #29 "Texas has no standing" So who has? |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2020-12-12 18:20 |
| #28 Deck chairs on the Titanic, SCOTUS cowardice was the last peaceful chance to save the Republic. That states have no standing to argue that other states, with more electoral votes, can have a crooked voting system that allows them to elect a fraud of their choice to rule us all is judicial psychobabble. |
| Posted by: NoMoreBS 2020-12-12 17:41 |
| #27 At the bar playing foosball, a certain level of bump and push jostling is to be expected. Lifting up the table is an ass whoopin. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2020-12-12 14:31 |
| #26 Since there always seem to be shenanigans somewhere, if an election can be voided by lawsuit we have a horrible mess waiting for us in the future Except this time there were anywhere from 5x to 10x the number of mail-in ballots, a process which everyone agrees is rife with fraud. Those ballots were necessary, we were told, by the same people who have deliberately manipulated a Chinese flu strain to crater the economy and spread yet more disinformation about a president whose economic policies were astonishingly successful. And this follows four years of brazen media lies and disinformation about that president as well as something we have never seen in our history, the near-total suppression of stories unfavorable to that president's challenger. There is no other conclusion: this was a fraudulent election aimed at getting rid of a man who our elites decided was intolerable. The only way that we can swallow this outrage is to create the fairy-tale that Trumo was a one-off and therefore the elites will never pull this shit again. Aside from the fact that cheating and intimidation are now proven to work - and will now be adopted by every candidate everywhere - the problem with that rationalization is that Trumpism, not Trump, is what really bothers our elites. They are bought by China, cowed by racial extortionists, addicted to forever wars abroad and unwilling to defend our borders or protect our culture and our working class here at home. They are literally destroying our livelihoods and our children's lives in order to avoid admitting that they have no fucking clue how to deal with batflu, which, by their own behavior, they show us again and again, poses no threat at all to our kids and next to no threat to normal people under 60. If you're OK with such disgusting corruption and gross incompetence, then fine, look the other way. |
| Posted by: Ho Chi Panda6086 2020-12-12 12:14 |
| #25 And Arthur Laffer got all the credit and fame! |
| Posted by: Clem 2020-12-12 11:33 |
| #24 Interstate Commerce Commission. One page. I'd receive an F on that in 7th grade civics. Was it on a cocktail napkin? |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2020-12-12 11:28 |
| #23 I'm not a lawyer, but there seems to be precedent for the feds intervening in state election rules where there were biases (e.g. racial disqualifiers). This would seem to be a similar sort of intervention, and either both are valid or neither is. OTOH, I don't know the cases well enough to know if elections were ever voided after the fact. Since there always seem to be shenanigans somewhere, if an election can be voided by lawsuit we have a horrible mess waiting for us in the future. It's going to be bad enough with automatic impeachment proceedings. This looks like a no-win for SCOTUS. There were red flags all over the place, but voting and counting procedures seem almost to have been designed to make it impossible to actually prove the fraud. BTW, where can one find that 14-hour video of the State Farm Center ballot counting room? |
| Posted by: James 2020-12-12 10:51 |
| #22 @ # 15 --> Justice Clarence Thomas delivered the opinion for a unanimous Court. Nuff said. |
| Posted by: Clem 2020-12-12 10:31 |
| #21 For some reason I'm reminded of the aftermath (here) of Obama's election. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2020-12-12 10:24 |
| #20 The Republic is gone alright. The question now is can we reclaim it or do we allow a loud minority to dictate every detail of our lives into feudal servitude. |
| Posted by: Cesare 2020-12-12 09:50 |
| #19 Texas should announce that Texas elected Trump as president. Since they have no standing in elections in other states, what other states do in their elections has no standing in Texas. Then declare that any attempt to foist Biden off on Texas as president is an act of war and as the Supreme Cowards no longer act as an arbiter between states, none of their rulings now matter. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2020-12-12 09:46 |
| #18 NPR. |
| Posted by: Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2020-12-12 09:16 |
| #17 Headz we win, tailz you lose, bitchez! |
| Posted by: Andy Grutch4623 2020-12-12 09:01 |
| #16 From what I understand, this was brought up before the elections, and they were told they had no standing because no provable harm was done yet. So wait for the election where harm is done, and ... sorry, you still have no standing. |
| Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 2020-12-12 08:51 |
| #15 Strange when it comes to water rights, states vs states, the court has no problem playing the standing game. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2020-12-12 08:47 |
| #14 #11 - Texas was asking the Court to rule that other states must follow the US Constitution, as well as their own. Apparently, the consequences of such a ruling were too difficult to comprehend. |
| Posted by: Bobby 2020-12-12 08:35 |
| #13 Not sure how Texas can tell another sovereign state how to run its business. So if in 2022 Texas decides to shrewd all democrat ballots and only count Republican ballots and then ignore all laws or lawsuits; then so be it? |
| Posted by: Airandee 2020-12-12 08:26 |
| #12 /\ We apparently prefer to learn the fok'n hard way. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2020-12-12 08:06 |
| #11 ^Maybe, just maybe, this legal challenge would fare better if submitted before the elections. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2020-12-12 08:04 |
| #10 Not sure how Texas can tell another sovereign state how to run its business. |
| Posted by: Clem 2020-12-12 07:52 |
| #9 Cowards. The Constitution is dead, no Constitution, no Republic. No Republic, no federal government. Lock and load. |
| Posted by: Tyranysaurus Chavith5206 2020-12-12 07:48 |
| #8 #5 Coping strategies, sure. Losers' consolations. Therapy of the sort extended to victims of rape. They got away with it. Yes. This feels like a violation - very much like being raped. Raped in the ass by a laughing thug who knows he will never be prosecuted |
| Posted by: Shusort McGurque1678 2020-12-12 06:58 |
| #7 Not exactly a shocking revelation or wild-eyed scenario, we've seen them lunging on the leash for years. Plugs has already indicated his intentions with regard to the 2nd Amendment. Whatever scheme he and his cohorts decide to implement, they will need local law enforcement (LE) for support. I am satisfied they do NOT have that support. In urban areas possibly, elsewhere, not so much. Absolute, total control (which is the desired end-state) cannot be achieved if the population is armed. Without LE support and the support of local politicians, his gun grab goes nowhere. Local LE and local governance must be supplanted if the weapons are to be taken away. Compliance can be phased, but must eventually be universal. Control will likely come as some sort of sweeping anti-crime program partnered with new, more onerous taxes and ownership permits. Funding for reparations must come from somewhere. A further militarization of the BATF/FBI/FEMA is also likely. All alleged violations must end up as Federal issues and resolved in Federal courts. Blue States will likely herald the initial legislative prototypes. Buy-back or amnesty programs could administered by FEMA. (Federal 'Emergency Management'.....). Bottom line, look for anti-2nd Amendment issues and measures to top the list of the new regime. Gun store ammo and firearm inventories have been reduced to historical levels for a reason. We all know what the reason is. What to do about it? Heck if I know. I only have one vote, and in Georgia it appears my vote has recently been pi**ed away. You'll have to consult with someone much smarter and more politically astute than me for the answers. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2020-12-12 06:47 |
| #6 So fucking predictable. The other side was prepared. Played us for saps. Don't get mad. Get even. |
| Posted by: Speart Angavising2676 2020-12-12 03:31 |
| #5 I believe there may be other remedies. Coping strategies, sure. Losers' consolations. Therapy of the sort extended to victims of rape. But no remedies for the atrocities and attempted atrocities of the past 4+ years. They finally did it: they lied cheated stole and trashed our rights to the point where they will finally hustle their Prince o Darkness out of the White House. They got away with it. If we accept it, we are admitting that we are less than men. If we fight it, we are admitting that we are no longer citizens of a Republic but partisans fighting against an illegitimate, corrupt, brutally stupid nomenklatura. Partisans are at least men. Your choice, slick |
| Posted by: Sleretle Elmising4148 2020-12-12 02:18 |
| #4 #1 What do we have left of the Constitution? What's left of our democratic rights and core institutions? Our elections are a disgrace. Our newsmedia makes Pravda look evenhanded and professional. Our security services are corrupt and our incoming president is a demented old fart who's probably been turned by the Chinese Communist Party. Our retarded local and state officials persist in destroying our businesses while they themselves ignore their own BS restrictions, all the while knowing that the risk the virus poses to them and their livelihoods is next to zero. |
| Posted by: Cheater Chesing1247 2020-12-12 02:01 |
| #3 I am disappointed in the decision to not take the case and to debate it, but I do not like use of the term "death warrant" because it implies a threat. Only muslims are allowed to seek their own revenge. I believe there may be other remedies. |
| Posted by: boomerc 2020-12-12 01:57 |
| #2 Cases like this are the major reason the Supreme Court Exists. Its their job. If they refuse to do their one freaking job why should we give their rulings and edicts any respect at all? |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2020-12-12 01:47 |
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| Posted by: Unins Lover of the Mongol Horde9157 2020-12-12 01:21 |