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China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesn’t drop charges against researchers
2020-10-19
[NYPost] Beijing is threatening to take Americans in China hostage if the Department of Justice doesn’t drop its prosecution of several Chinese research scientists arrested on U.S. soil this year, according to a report on Saturday.

Chinese government officials have repeatedly warned their U.S. counterparts that Americans in China face being detained if its demands are not met, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing sources familiar with the matter.

The drastic action — dubbed "hostage diplomacy" — would be in retaliation for the arrests of at least five Chinese military-affiliated scholars visiting American universities to conduct research.

The scientists were charged with visa fraud for allegedly lying to U.S. immigration authorities about their active duty statuses with China’s People’s Liberation Army.

The nation first began issuing the warnings over the summer, after Chinese research scientist Juan Tang, who worked at the University of Caliphornia, an impregnable bastion of the Democratic Party,, Davis, was questioned by the FBI and took up residence for a month in China’s the Socialist paradise of San Francisco
...where God struck dead Anton LaVey, home of the Sydney Ducks, ruled by Vigilance Committee from 1859 through 1867, reliably and volubly Democrat since 1964...
consulate.

Chinese officials vowed to retaliate if she wasn’t allowed to leave the consulate and return home, according to the report.

U.S. officials expected China to make good on the threat — but it didn’t, and the FBI arrested Tang in July when she left consulate grounds, the Journal reported.

Tang is currently out on bail after pleading not guilty to visa fraud charges. Her lawyer, Malcolm Segal, denied that China had sought to interfere in his client’s case.

At least four other researchers have been accused of hiding their ties to the Chinese military and pleaded not guilty
"Wudn't me."
to similar charges.

The State Department ordered China in July to close its Houston consulate and told all Chinese military researchers remaining in the U.S. to leave.

Sources told the Journal the decision was made after U.S. officials said Chinese diplomats were coordinating with the scholars to collect cutting-edge scientific research from American universities.

A State Department front man declined to address China’s alleged threats but told the newspaper, "We warn U.S. citizens that business disputes, court orders to pay a settlement, or government investigations into both criminal and civil issues may result in an exit ban which will prohibit your departure from China until the issue is resolved."

"We are aware that the Chinese government has, in other instances, detained American, Canadian and other individuals without legal basis to retaliate against lawful prosecutions and to exert pressure on their governments, with a callous disregard of the individuals involved," said John Demers, head of the Justice Department’s national security division.
Posted by:trailing wife

#21  The US had a high death rate because Governor Cuomo is an idiot.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2020-10-19 16:11  

#20  We should have been treating China for the past several decades the same way we treated the USSR. But too many Americans were too busy making big bucks with the slave labor that the CCP had to offer. I have little sympathy for those Americans and I'm not sure I could endorse a shooting war on their behalf. I do believe it's way past time for another Cold War.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2020-10-19 13:49  

#19  Almost any adult doing business with the CCP at this point would have it coming to them.
Posted by: charger   2020-10-19 12:12  

#18  The Lancet, one a reputable medical journal, is no longer a reliable source for anything other than medical gossip and left-wing talking points.
Posted by: SteveS   2020-10-19 10:59  

#17  ...the CIA believed them Is that the same CIA that was completely unaware that Soviet subs during the Cuban Missile Crisis had nuclear weapons on board along with high level Soviet commanders who had full authority to launch them as they saw fit? Hat tip: Soviet Navy Vice-Admiral Vasily Arkhipov. I wonder what JFK would have done instead had he known this little fact.
Posted by: Dino Omomble9051   2020-10-19 09:40  

#16  ...the CIA believed them, then the Soviet Union collapsed.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2020-10-19 08:24  

#15  Of course this assumes that government statistics from all over the world are worth something...I'm not so sure.
Posted by: AlanC   2020-10-19 07:48  

#14   Ref #8: .....“metabolic risks”—obesity, high blood sugar, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, to be aggravating factors for a higher covid mortality rate. These Four factors which, we should all know by now, have a higher prevalence in wealthier countries, due to the human disposition in this current era for generally lazy overindulgent behaviour.

These factors are at least elements of the equation, coupled with our aging population. Almost as troubling, apparently there is still no Wuhan 'deep dive', definitive explanation, white paper, or legal finding regarding the origins.

Evidently, if you are president of the local bank (hold the notes to all farm loans), owner of the factory, or superintendent of schools, draft deferments for your graduating senior can be more easily arranged. Same smell, little town-big town. Power and influence, money, and lots of it ?

I've seen the movie, perhaps you have as well. Same plot, they're just speaking Chinese in this one.
Posted by: Besoeker   2020-10-19 07:39  

#13  Good. Commence decoupling.
Posted by: Ebbainter Ebbaish4837   2020-10-19 06:57  

#12  Historically considered and act of war.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2020-10-19 06:32  

#11  Mr. Lockdown has spoken. Heed his qwords
Posted by: Frank G   2020-10-19 06:15  

#10  ... And, in fact, New restrictions as Europe surges past 250,000 virus deaths
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-10-19 05:49  

#9  I don't know if this was addressed to me or to cingold. The reply is totally irrelevant to my post, but - it's also irrelevant to cingold's. Because such conditions as Lancet describes (unless they've redacted it by now - they do a lot of it lately) apply to all western countries.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-10-19 05:46  

#8  It appears that The Lancet considers “metabolic risks”—obesity, high blood sugar, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, to be aggravating factors for a higher covid mortality rate.
These Four factors which, we should all know by now, have a higher prevalence in wealthier countries, due to the human disposition in this current era for generally lazy overindulgent behaviour.

"As the Lancet editors note in an accompanying editorial, those statistics are also how COVID-19 turned the US into a country with one of the highest rates of infection and death in the world. "

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/10/the-preexisting-conditions-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

Educate yourself before talking shit, aka Commie Stooge.
Posted by: Pink Charlie Sperens6603   2020-10-19 05:21  

#7  The COVID-19 viral strains (there are many worldwide) released in the USA are much more recalcitrant and lethal than those released elsewhere.

Evidence?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-10-19 03:59  

#6  Right now it’s a non-kinetic War we’ve generally not been paying attention to for a couple of decades. But with talk like this, and after hitting us with the COVID-19 Frankenvirus bioweapon, it could easily go hot. Like old-Japan, they’ll regret if they wake the sleeping giant.

We’ve some 20% of world’s COVID-19 deaths, but are less than 5% of world’s population. Reason? The COVID-19 viral strains (there are many worldwide) released in the USA are much more recalcitrant and lethal than those released elsewhere.
Posted by: cingold   2020-10-19 03:57  

#5  
Posted by: 3dc   2020-10-19 02:07  

#4  This is crazy, it's like some banana republic.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-10-19 02:05  

#3  Thought the Chinese were better traders. There are several hundred thousand adult children of wealthy merchants and high CCP officials in the US.
Posted by: Angoluter Thremp3808   2020-10-19 01:38  

#2  I am worried that China attacks Taiwan on Election Day.
Posted by: 3dc   2020-10-19 01:16  

#1  Yeah, even if they are expats that's a bad idea.
Posted by: Skidmark   2020-10-19 00:47  

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