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The Outright Stupidity Of "Wolverine Watchmen"
2020-10-11
[Bearing Arms] Let me start this by saying that I actually have no issues with private militias.

To be sure, there are those who would destroy me just for saying that, but the truth is that I don’t. The idea of militias goes back beyond the founding of this great nation. While militias should probably answer to the governor of their state, the truth is that sometimes the governor is as much an enemy of the people as any foreign power, so independent militias make sense.

But as we learned again yesterday, sometimes they cross some major lines that anyone with half a brain know they shouldn’t be crossing.

See, as Cam noted yesterday:
It’s worth noting that while these self-proclaimed patriots were allegedly plotting to overthrow the state government in Michigan over Whitmer’s COVID-19 executive orders, a lawsuit challenging those same orders was making its way through the court system, and the state’s Supreme Court declared her mask mandate unconstitutional just a few days ago. It may very well be that one day the United States will have to face the real question of living under tyranny or fighting against it, but we certainly haven’t reached that point yet, and there are plenty of legal means to address unconstitutional power grabs without trying to kidnap politicians or kick off a civil war, starting with voting in November.

He is, of course, dead on correct.

I fear we’re fast approaching the point in the history books where we start seeing maps with the different colored arrows, but we’re not there yet. More importantly, though, is that if we get there, it should damn well not be our side trying to start this mess.

Honestly, what did they think would happen? The leader of this "operation" figured he’d need 200 people to storm the capitol and take hostages, but then what? Trust me, 200 people aren’t enough to hold anything indefinitely. At some point, someone would send in some elite tactical unit—possibly military rather than law enforcement since this would constitute a terrorist act—and kill every last one of those 200 men. At least, those that weren’t smart enough to surrender first.

Undoubtedly, some are arguing that it’s funny how the FBI can focus on groups like this but not Antifa. Well, I have some news for you, Antifa is smarter than these knobs.

See, Antifa, for all their ills, focuses on low-level stuff. They wreck buildings, sure, but they’re not talking about a large-scale terrorist operation on American shores. Guess which one the FBI is going to put their focus on? Believe me, the public would eviscerate them if it was learned they had intelligence about such an attack but were focused on a bunch of street punks with Molotov cocktails instead.

Antifa, who I have zero use for, has at least honed their tactics for the battleground they’ve chosen. They know how to mobilize, compartmentalize, and then operate with minimal chance for infiltration.

I know a gentleman with a lot of military experience. His response to the argument that right-wing actors are more dangerous than left-wing groups by simply arguing that it’s not that the right is more likely to act, but that they’re more likely to be good at violence. He may well be right.

However, on the same token, the extreme left is better at keeping their heads down and not getting stupid enough to warrant much attention from the FBI.

Then again, there’s reason to suspect one of the the ringleaders of this group wasn’t exactly "right" politically.

Yes, I know, this is the same FBI that has actively worked against the president. There’s plenty of reason to suspect their biases. On the same token, you really do have to look at the scale of what’s at stake.

Look, I get where a lot of people are coming from. I fear war is coming and it’s probably a good idea for people to band together for training purposes because if and when something does kick off, it’ll be a bad time to try and find a crew.

So yes, get together and train. Be vigilant. Be ready.

But the moment you decide to kidnap anyone, much less a sitting governor, you’ve crossed the line and have become just as lawless as the Antifa you claim to hate.

Posted by:Besoeker

#10  Not sure who wrote this but the so called militia was an anarchist group, antifa supporters. They are more a product or inspired by antifa, and are more closely aligned to antifa than the buzz word "militia" the press call them, all four of them.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2020-10-11 19:26  

#9  Just a reminder with everyone throwing the term around.

10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


Dear journalists, governors, et al.

If they're American males between 17 and 45, they're already members of the militia IAW the powers of the Legislative Branch as defined in the Constitution, Article I, Section 8 -

Congress shall have the power...

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Posted by: Procopius2k   2020-10-11 15:31  

#8   They have been shown to be in contact with Hezbollah and the Real IRA in Germany.

Here they are getting financing from one of the Red Chinese consulates in Texas in addition to all the support they get from Mr. Soros and his domestic Progressive multibillionaire buddies. One needn’t go to West Point to read Army manuals about small war and guerrilla war tactics. Nor be a conservative to join the Marines, as we just discovered about one of the miscreants who plotted to kidnap the governor of Michigan.
Posted by: trailing wife   2020-10-11 14:07  

#7  Well, it would appear there are those on the anarchist/BLM Left that are not so good at keeping to low level actions
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2020-10-11 12:49  

#6  Militias should probably answer to the governor of the state.

That would be the State Guard,that already exists in many states. These guy are not in that category.
Posted by: Cleting Closh2157   2020-10-11 10:40  

#5  They have been shown to be in contact with Hezbollah and the Real IRA in Germany. But what they have done here, complete with substantial financing and logistics is enough for me.
Posted by: Cesare   2020-10-11 10:25  

#4   but they’re not talking about a large-scale terrorist operation on American shores

Putz.
Communications, recruitment, logistics planning and practice are the fist phase.
Posted by: Skidmark   2020-10-11 10:04  

#3  How does he know they're not planning a large-scale terror act?
Posted by: Chunky Omoluper4641   2020-10-11 07:04  

#2  Kristallnacht preceded the concentration camps.

See, Antifa, for all their ills, focuses on low-level stuff. They wreck buildings, sure, but they’re not talking about a large-scale terrorist operation on American shores.

The argument that " 'They' are not not talking about" is a child whistling past a graveyard. The totality of all of these riots IS a "large scale terrorist operation". Luckily no firestorm has swept through an urban center.
Posted by: magpie   2020-10-11 02:39  

#1  Open carry is a disaster waiting to happen. Just my two cents worth.
Posted by: Besoeker   2020-10-11 01:41  

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