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Zogby: It's a 2-point race, not 16, pro-Biden media polls trying to suppress Trump vote
2020-10-10
[WashingtonExaminer] Add John Zogby to the growing number of Democratic pollsters questioning major media surveys showing a double-digit lead by Joe Biden over President Trump.

"It’s closer than you think," according to Zogby, who’s own John Zogby Strategies survey puts Biden’s lead at two points, 49%-47%.

In his latest podcast with son and pollster Jeremy Zogby, John Zogby said that polls showing a bigger Biden lead are using a bad model, one that includes far too many Democrats.

His model follows the partisan turnout in 2016 that was about 34% Republicans and about 38% Democrats.

"We believe that is a more accurate reflection of the turnout model," he said.
But others showing a big Biden lead over-weigh Democrats. "Now some of the polls that have come out, I find troubling," he said, citing CNN, Fox, and YouGov. They give an average 15-point advantage to Democrats. CNN had it a 16-point lead.

While the elder Zogby didn’t cite a reason other pollsters are showing a bigger Biden lead, his son Jeremy did — Biden bias.

"To me, it’s only two things. It’s deliberate, or it's a projection of bias, and I would go with the latter," he said in their weekly conversation, The Zogby Report.

"If you live in an area, and you live in an echo chamber, and most of your friends think a certain way, a lot of times the echo chamber effect is that you tend to project, ’How could people think such a certain way, clearly, for example, the president is out of mind, and he’s bad for this country, he’s bad for the world, so of course people are going to turn out in droves for Biden.’ I’m afraid that that’s what’s happening, a projection of bias in the data," he said.

Trump’s pollsters agree.

John McLaughlin, of McLaughlin & Associates, recently sent a memo to the president titled "Skewed media polls," and said the media is trying to rig the election and suppress the GOP vote by making it look like a Biden runaway.

In it, he wrote, "The latest skewed media polls must be intentional. It’s clear that NBC, ABC and CNN who have Democrat operatives like Chuck Todd, George Stephanopoulos and other Democrats in their news operations are consistently under-polling Republicans and therefore, reporting biased polls. They continue to poll adults or registered voters that skew away from likely voters. So instead of the 33% Republican turnout which actually happened in 2016, they are reporting polls on only 26%, 25% or even 24% Republicans. Since you get over 90% of the Republican vote, for every point fewer Republicans that they do not poll, they reduce your vote total by a point. In contrast CBS polled likely voters. CBS had 32% Republicans and a close national race. The bias seems to be an intentional strategy to suppress your vote. The latest media spin is that it’s too late to define Joe Biden and it’s too late for President Trump to win. We can hardly wait until they start spinning a ’Biden electoral lock.’ It has to be a strategy to counter the enthusiasm of Trump voters."

"I’m a Democrat," he said, but "I just don’t don’t think the sampling is accurate."
Joe with a 16 point lead is just silly and smells of leftist desperation. I can see him up by 2-4 points for registered voters, and a dead heat with likely voters. I still suspect Trump is ahead and while it might be a popular vote squeaker, the electoral college will be a complete landslide. Especially with deep blue cities hemorrhaging people like crazy. Trump might actually only lose NY by 5 instead of the normal 12-22 points republicans lose by.
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Posted by:DarthVader

#17  ^I ain't
Posted by: DarthVader   2020-10-10 23:53  

#16  Conservatives don't do polls. They just don't. How many of you conservatives have participated in polls???
Posted by: Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589   2020-10-10 23:02  

#15  Biden has at least a triple digit lead in the over 100 age group.

Among the pulse challenged.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2020-10-10 20:38  

#14  magpie, the interesting thing about this election is university towns are empty of students because of Covid.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2020-10-10 18:54  

#13  Yep, grom.
Posted by: Glenmore   2020-10-10 18:42  

#12  IT IS a 16 point race - once the mail ballots are counted.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-10-10 17:36  

#11  It would be nice to have the media cover issues and policy proposals rather than treating this like a horse race.

But I suppose that is too much to ask.
Posted by: Tom   2020-10-10 16:27  

#10  According to the polls in 2016, Hillary was to win by a landslide. Note to self, watch the election returns and the Dem reactions as the results came in again for a boost.
Posted by: JonhQC   2020-10-10 16:01  

#9  His model follows the partisan turnout in 2016 that was about 34% Republicans and about 38% Democrats.

How many of these Dems were dead, voted more than once or were named Pluto, Minnie or Mickey?
Posted by: JonhQC   2020-10-10 15:28  

#8  The national media are not reporting news, they are spreading disinformation. Pravda would be envious, and Goebbels would be proud.
Posted by: Theager Borgia1057   2020-10-10 14:43  

#7  Little to no enthusiasm for Plugs in North Georgia. Atlanta and Fulton, Clayton, and Douglas Counties, probably a little different.
Posted by: Besoeker   2020-10-10 14:05  

#6  Red state and deep purple university town I have seen very few Biden street signs. There were Bernie!â„¢ signs and bumper stickers everywhere in the primaries... but I have only seen two (2) Biden signs.

There is no enthusiasm -- only than the reflexive OrangeManBadâ„¢.
Posted by: magpie   2020-10-10 13:26  

#5  The polls are useless, and the MSM reporting on the polls is worse than useless. So we are basically flying blind into this election, not even considering "vote harvesting", miscounting, and other criminal activity. What I can see with my own eyes is miles-long parades of Trump supporters and a crowd outside of Walter Reed praying for his quick recovery.
Posted by: Matt   2020-10-10 13:17  

#4  "Bonehead idea"
Posted by: Clem   2020-10-10 13:02  

#3  Biden has at least a triple digit lead in the over 100 age group.
Posted by: Glenmore   2020-10-10 13:00  

#2  But Biden has a commanding lead in the critical Non-Existent American demographic.
Posted by: Matt   2020-10-10 12:52  

#1  Ya don't say?
Posted by: Boss Chese5260   2020-10-10 10:11  

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