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A Surprising Figure Is Now Going Under the Microscope Over the Michael Flynn Ordeal | |
2020-05-09 | |
[Red State] I didn’t expect to see H.R. McMaster’s
Adam Housley is reporting that the man who replaced Flynn at NSA is now coming under scrutiny. This tweet is obviously really short on details, but it actually makes a lot of sense when you go back to 2017 and review how everything went down. Upon Flynn’s firing, McMaster came into the role and absolutely cleaned house. He notably promoted several anti-Trump figures in his office, a point of contention that festered until his resignation. McMaster also played right into the Trump-Russia investigation, refusing to tell the President he was a target. Further, there’s the matter of Ezra Cohen-Watnick, who blew the whistle on all the unmaskings that took place during the latter months of the Obama administration. McMaster attempted to fire him but Trump blocked the move initially. Who did McMaster want to replace him with? A Democrat flack who authored the Benghazi talking points that caused so much controversy during that period. McMaster eventually got his way and got rid of Cohen-Watnick. As it pertains to Flynn, there’s no doubt McMaster was well aware of everything that had been done. There’s also no doubt that he was read into all the corruption that occurred involving the FBI and the Page FISA warrants. The entire reason Flynn was targeted was almost certainly because he would have discovered that information. McMaster sat on it, though, perhaps even aiding the cover-up. Given all that, it makes perfect sense that he’s being investigated at this point. We’ll see where this goes. Related: H.R. McMaster: 2019-11-21 Steve Bannon Tried To Take Down Alleged Whistleblower Before Anyone Knew Who He Was H.R. McMaster: 2019-11-15 Schiff Lies Yet Again, Claims To Not Know Who The Whistleblower Is H.R. McMaster: 2019-10-21 Schiff's Russia Expert Worked W/Steele, Wrote ‘Russian Interference' Piece In 2016, Has Unusual Connections Related: Ezra Cohen-Watnick: 2019-11-23 Abolish the National Security Council Ezra Cohen-Watnick: 2017-10-07 National Security Adviser Gen. H.R. McMaster appoints Mike Barry to oversee intelligence community on NSC Ezra Cohen-Watnick: 2017-04-21 Interesting chap, that Ezra Cohen-Watnick Related: Zoom: 2020-05-08 A Nuremberg-type trial in Wuhan, for the biological Chernobyl unleashed on the people? Zoom: 2020-05-06 Hillary Clinton bids to raise millions for Joe Biden with $100,000-a-head fundraising dinner on ZOOM Zoom: 2020-05-02 University Of Texas Under Investigation For Working With Wuhan Laboratory | |
Posted by:Besoeker |
#41 McMaster outside of the battlefield = an eagle dragged into the Beltway slime. A great man brought low by the Swamp. |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 22:40 |
#40 ^ re Ciaramellius: CORIOLANUS Well, I must do 't. Away, my disposition, and possess me Some harlot's spirit! My throat of war be turned, Which choirèd with my drum, into a pipe Small as an eunuch or the virgin voice That babies lulls asleep! The smiles of knaves Tent in my cheeks, and schoolboys' tears take up The glasses of my sight! ... A beggar's tongue Make motion through my lips, and my armed knees, Who bowed but in my stirrup, bend like his That hath received an alms. I will not do 't, Lest I surcease to honor mine own truth And, by my body's action, teach my mind A most inherent baseness. (3.2.137-150) |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 22:36 |
#39 A real warrior being disparaged by a keyboard warrior... Ah yes, we must all worship everyone who ever wore a uniform. You know, like John McCain, John Kerry and Al Gore. Ever hear of Eric Ciamarella? You know who made him a key aide at the NSC? McMaster. He also hired Kris Bauman, Hamas sympathizer to work with him at NSC, and tried to hire Linda Weissgold But we must reflexively avoid holding him to account if he was involved with the coup. Because he wore a uniform at one time. |
Posted by: charger 2020-05-09 22:29 |
#38 Coriolanus: If you have writ your annals true, 't is there, That, like an eagle in a dovecote, I Fluttered your Volscians in Corioles. Alone I did it. Boy! (Coriolanus, Act 5 scene 6) mm ... My rage is gone, And I am struck with sorrow. |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 22:29 |
#37 McNaster as Shakespeare's Coriolanus Shakespeare’s Coriolanus is neither a model of conduct nor a horrible example: he is a tragic hero, brought down by his own inherent faults of character, qualities admirable in some circumstances, disastrous in others. Cicero in his treatise De Officiis, enormously influential during the Renaissance, makes exactly this point, though not specifically about Shakespeare’s character. Greatness of spirit, appropriate “in times of danger and toil,” when not allied with a concern for justice and the common good, becomes barbarism, the wilfulness characteristic of tyrants |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 22:27 |
#36 TW - I hope he is clean. If he is not I will apologize as well. |
Posted by: Tennessee 2020-05-09 22:18 |
#35 If LTG McMaster was not part of the nefarious network, the current investigation should quickly reveal that and be dropped, especially given, as Tennessee testifies, that he still has the president’s respect as an advisor. And if I am wrong about him I will happily apologize — goodness knows I’ve been wrong often enough in the past. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2020-05-09 21:47 |
#34 McCain's boy Lindsey Graham was just on Judge Jeanine's show. Not a fan of hers, but Graham did a lot of tap-dancing when she was trying to get an answer out of him. Gee, what a surprise. |
Posted by: Clem 2020-05-09 21:18 |
#33 #32 Anyone surprised at this wasn't paying attention . Oh wait, it's Red State. As for war heroism, Benedict Arnold was an American military hero for awhile too. Posted by charger 2020-05-09 A real warrior being disparaged by a keyboard warrior... But, hey don't tell me, tell Trump, he is the one still calling McMaster asking for advice...IMO Trump must have finally figured out that Steve Bannon was the inexperienced turd in the punch bowl. |
Posted by: Tennessee 2020-05-09 21:06 |
#32 Anyone surprised at this wasn't paying attention . Oh wait, it's Red State. As for war heroism, Benedict Arnold was an American military hero for awhile too. |
Posted by: charger 2020-05-09 20:35 |
#31 #26 The guy stabbed my President in the back. His actions his words. Quit pissing down my back and saying it's a warm rain. Posted by M. Murcek Where is your proof that McMaster stabbed the POTUS in the back? Specific actions and words? Other than your gratuitous assertions I haven't seen them...further Trump ain't feeling it either since he has been calling McMaster for advice since he fired Bolton. Re: Trailing Wife's comment: There is zero proof that LTG McWaster was a "never Trumper" he was on active duty as a three star outside of the NCR in the run up to the election. Re: running off a "pro-Trump" team, I remember Watnick, Harvey and Higgens moving on at different times for different reasons... Harvey was counter to not only McMaster but Mattis as well, Higgens was bat shit crazy too and I imagine that he got on Mcmaster's nerves. Watnick had no real skills or experience and was brought on by Flynn as part of his team. Steve Bannon (with no real experience other than Brieitbart) was likely intimidated by McMaster which is why he started the smear campaign against him. |
Posted by: Tennessee 2020-05-09 20:29 |
#30 I don't know that it's a good idea for our generals to move into the political arena. Aside from Ike (and Washington), the results have been generally disastrous. |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 20:27 |
#29 |
Posted by: 3dc 2020-05-09 18:46 |
#28 I wish I knew what fucking military award it was you can get with oak clusters and the right to frame someone, if we have one like that we need to recall all of them and melt them down. |
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2020-05-09 18:31 |
#27 I thought McMaster brilliant, but bat-shit crazy at times There were those among the NeverTrumpers who advocated going to work for President Trump in order to guide him if they could, and thwart him if he walked off the proper path, as they saw it, all for patriotic love of country. I am willing to accept that General McMaster falls into that camp, which would not contradict Tennessee’s evaluation. That he, according to his Wikipedia page, as National Security Advisor was willing to purge Trump supporters, promote anti-Trump staff, and openly support the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation speaks to his conventional thinking on the political side without impacting his brilliance as a military man. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2020-05-09 17:58 |
#26 The guy stabbed my President in the back. His actions his words. Quit pissing down my back and saying it's a warm rain. |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 17:40 |
#25 I'm not on Twitter so it wasn't me. |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 16:29 |
#24 #21Perspective requires distance. "I worked with them" is not a positive in the long term evaluation process...Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 12:10 Perspective is. In this case distance does not have anything to with perspective ...other than to cause its loss. In my world senior leaders and senior operators have a well established reputation. Their rep is set and repeated by those they work with and refined by their peers and subordinates over the years. Their rep precedes them and remains after they leave the room so to say...their mere words can not change their rep, only their actions. The brief perspective that I related above is a sum of my interactions with each which corroborated the rep that I had previously heard. Just because some person on Twitter issues a vague one sentence allegation does not change my perspective nor opinion of McMasters...a guy I first heard about while still in Kuwait back in 1991...dude was a genuine war hero to us back then. |
Posted by: Tennessee 2020-05-09 13:46 |
#23 Re #20 there have been hundreds of generals and admirals. The ones you never heard of got most of the heavy lifting done. |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 12:12 |
#22 Sorry, I thought Besoeker's reference to McLean was that little city in Virginia, not a person. |
Posted by: Clem 2020-05-09 12:12 |
#21 Perspective requires distance. "I worked with them" is not a positive in the long term evaluation process... |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 12:10 |
#20 Tennessee - seems to be a amiliar pattern with the brass: |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 11:57 |
#19 #5 Ref #3: McMaster. McChrystal. McRaven. McMaster. McChrystal. McRaven. McLean. Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-09 09:11 I worked around all of the above plus Flynn. I thought McMaster brilliant, but bat-shit crazy at times...kinda of a ADD savant...would be shocked if he was disloyal; McChrystal a self promoter and way in over his head - obviously a back-stabber; McRaven's recent comments surprise me; Flynn is narcissistic and is way too ambitious for someone with such limited skills. McClean, et al - see description for Flynn. |
Posted by: Tennessee 2020-05-09 11:47 |
#18 A nice summary by the superb Mollie H today that helps remind us why what Zero staged was far worse than Watergate: "Not only was information on Russia not fully shared with the incoming Trump team, as Obama directs, the leaks and ambushes made the transition chaotic, scared quality individuals away from working in the administration, made effective governance almost impossible, and materially damaged national security. "When Comey was finally fired on May 9, in part for his duplicitousness regarding his handling of the Russia collusion theory, he orchestrated the launch of a Special Counsel probe that continued his efforts for another two years. That probe ended with Mueller finding no evidence of any American colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election, much less Trump or anyone connected to him...." |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 11:47 |
#17 Some 'intelligence communities' have achieved their goal. Others still struggle with the 'will of the people' and democratic processes. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2020-05-09 09:42 |
#16 Hehe |
Posted by: Clem 2020-05-09 09:41 |
#15 FISA = "F*ck You In the sorry A$$" |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 09:40 |
#14 The problem with getting rid of the CIA and FBI is that you can't leave all those bitter ex employees at a loose end. I think exile would not work. That leaves only liquidation... |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 09:38 |
#13 McLean "I say nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure..." |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 09:36 |
#12 * FISA * lack of any predicate |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 09:36 |
#11 Add to the above: Lying repeatedly under oath Knowingly making false statements repeatedly in FUSA applications Concealing from superiors information showing the jack of any predicate for an investigation |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 09:35 |
#10 "War is the health of the state," -- Randolph Bourne |
Posted by: Clem 2020-05-09 09:34 |
#9 ^ surreal Destroying / tampering with evidence, setting perjury traps, lying to the President, creating circular "evidence" with planted fake news stories, using foreign agents to spy on US persons = "rule of law" War is Peace Slavery is Freedom |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 09:31 |
#8 Obama says ‘rule of law is at risk’ after DOJ dropped Michael Flynn case |
Posted by: Skidmark 2020-05-09 09:21 |
#7 McLean...lol,. Nice one, B. Nice but also true. |
Posted by: Clem 2020-05-09 09:13 |
#6 Much much bigger, Lex. A couple of bugs in DNC bldg versus this stuff...man, it is mind blowing. And when you see the Dems' response, it is a sign that the political system is dead here. And, oh, how I want to get sick at the sight and sounds of one Adam Schiff. |
Posted by: Clem 2020-05-09 09:12 |
#5 Ref #3: McMaster. McChrystal. McRaven. McMaster. McChrystal. McRaven. McLean. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2020-05-09 09:11 |
#4 Far bigger than Watergate. This is stomach-turning. |
Posted by: Lex 2020-05-09 09:08 |
#3 McMaster. McChrystal. McRaven. What did James Bond say? "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action." |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 09:07 |
#2 McBastard. Roast him. |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-05-09 09:05 |
#1 I always have my new Keen's purchased and ready before I discard my old Keen's. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2020-05-09 03:16 |