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Economy
Kudlow: ‘Pay The Moving Costs' Of American Companies Leaving China
2020-04-15
Posted by:g(r)omgoru

#18  The standard undergraduate college experience will eventually become 2 or at most 3 years of advanced work that builds upon lower-level college work completed during what is now the last 2 years of high school.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-15 20:51  

#17  ^ = wave of the future. Cheaper, faster, more effective.

No way this nation will continue to spend such absurd sums on higher ed for so little social or individual benefit.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-15 20:48  

#16   I could see allowing promising 16 year-olds to start college early through dual-enrollment programs that allow them to satisfy lower-division math/science requirements via college courses taken while in high school.

They can already do that with any college courses if the state or school district has such a program. Trailing daughter #2 matriculated one course short of a junior between two years of dual credit Japanese from the University of Cincinnati and a bunch of AP courses — and the high school paid the UC charges and fees.
Posted by: trailing wife   2020-04-15 20:29  

#15  * H1B
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-15 17:19  

#14  Pay for the ~$6-7 billion per year Math & Basic Science Free Tuition Scholars Program by forcing corporations to chip in $100,000 to this program each year for every H-B they sponsor
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-15 17:19  

#13  #12 Maybe you're right. Sorry. I'm simply not optimistic: too much "how much will I make", too little "a fire burning in my soul".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-15 17:06  

#12  One step at a time, g.

I could see allowing promising 16 year-olds to start college early through dual-enrollment programs that allow them to satisfy lower-division math/science requirements via college courses taken while in high school.

But we need to shoot the closest alligators:

1) the f---ing nightmare that is unaffordable university tuition and unsustainable student debt

2) the f---ing disaster that is flooding this country with hundreds of thousands of CCP spawn, Chinese "Confucius Institute" spies and other Chinese who should not be displacing our own kids.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-15 16:53  

#11  #9 You have to reform the entire educational system - starting with kindergarten.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-15 16:47  

#10  Can we get some of that attitude for our own?

I, personally, prefer scientists with - just a bit - more intellectual integrity. Or, for that matter, scientific intuition & curiosity.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-15 16:45  

#9  ^ Yes. Elicit the desired behavior with $$$.

Offer 4-year full-ride scholarships at any of ca. 35-40 Tier One or Tier Two public US research universities, renewable based on meeting a GPA threshold, for native-born US kids who show an aptitude for math and basic science.

Offer 2-year scholarships for math or basic science majors at another 100 or so lesser-ranked public universities.

This would essentially offset the lost revenue from kicking out the out-of-state tuition paid by the CCP gazillionaires' spawn. That equates to roughly $80 million per year for a place like TAMU or Penn State or the other large flagship public Tier One research universities which take in ca. 600 of these little brats from China each year, or about 2,500 total CCP spawn undergrads per university in any given year.

So the tab for the public generally, across the US, would be something like 50 of the Tier One/Tier Two universities would be about $4 billion for the entire US nation.

A bargain.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-15 16:40  

#8  I pretty much agree with these feelings here but after reading some stuff about the physics community I'd like to see it tied to real growth in US Stem education the doesn't rely on the Chinese student population. The hard working Chinese student has become a laugh line along with the tiger-Mom.

Can we get some of that attitude for our own?
Posted by: AlanC   2020-04-15 16:23  

#7  ^The bennies to be abolished if they use a single H1B (let alone an illegal).
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-15 15:13  

#6  Another approach: give them a 3-year payroll tax holiday for those new American jobs created once they've exited China and brought the work onshore.

I.e. Tie the benefit to incremental US employment.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-15 15:10  

#5  Useless w/o tariffs. Moving manufacturing back to US will fail as long as low/slave wage imports can undercut domestic prices.
Posted by: Bubba Claing1437   2020-04-15 11:05  

#4  Laugh at them for being such naive fools and make it possible for shareholders to sue the folks that made such idiot short term decisions as to move everything to a commie dictatorship that uses slave labor and eats bat soup.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2020-04-15 11:02  

#3  Cash payments? No! I'll go with OM's low interest loans and tax break.

* Corporations don't pay taxes anyway. Any tax they are levied is essentially a expense of business which is passed on to the consumer.
Posted by: Besoeker   2020-04-15 08:13  

#2  Use a means test. Apple can afford to pay their way. If they need help, low interest loans or long term tax breaks. Tell them if they do not move they will be tariff'd out of existence.
Posted by: Omavimp Munster7758   2020-04-15 07:39  

#1  Nope - if they paid their way to China, they can pay their way back. Enough of the corporate (and other) welfare bullshit.
Posted by: Raj   2020-04-15 07:33  

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