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'They are leading us to catastrophe': Sweden's coronavirus stoicism begins to jar
2020-04-01
[Guardian] - There’s a surreal calm in the last country in Europe to hold out against lockdown. But the death toll is rising and some are voicing dissent

...The precautions that Swedes have been advised to adopt ‐ no gatherings of more than 50 people (revised down from 500 last Friday), avoid social contact if over 70 or ill, try to work from home, table service only in bars and restaurants ‐ seem to have allayed public fears that the shocking images from hospitals in Italy and Spain could be repeated here.

The prime minister, Stefan Löfven, has urged Swedes to behave "as adults" and not to spread "panic or rumours".

Panic, though, is exactly what many within Sweden’s scientific and medical community are starting to feel. A petition signed by more than 2,000 doctors, scientists, and professors last week ‐ including the chairman of the Nobel Foundation, Prof Carl-Henrik Heldin ‐ called on the government to introduce more stringent containment measures. "We’re not testing enough, we’re not tracking, we’re not isolating enough ‐ we have let the virus loose," said Prof Cecilia Söderberg-Nauclér, a virus immunology researcher at the Karolinska Institute. "They are leading us to catastrophe."


Posted by:g(r)omgoru

#7  Here's what I posted, on Monday, in response to the first post (#1 "there are proven ways to deal with them that don’t involve shutting down the economy and putting everyone under house arrest"):

Funny that it should turn out to be the Swedes who are showing the greatest calm and understanding of the above.

Perhaps their approach is wrong. Perhaps it's a balanced and wise approach that will end up saving lives. We shall see.

Posted by Lex 2020-03-30 08:10|| 2020-03-30 08:10||

Perhaps you're right, and destroying the global economy, and with it, hundreds of millions of lives, will have been worth it.

But maybe you're wrong. One day or one week or even one month's worth of spikes in reported fatalities will not settle the argument.

We shall see which approach, on balance, causes more deaths and more misery.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-01 21:56  

#6  Just the other day I saw them being touted by some polyannas as the model we should be following.

Uh...that statement is no longer operative, Rob. Like a lot of the advice we've been getting from Top Men lately.
Posted by: SteveS   2020-04-01 20:27  

#5  You have to start the measures in the beginning with an R0 factor of 2.5 it will double in a few days. Exponential interest.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2020-04-01 20:03  

#4  They should keep the mosques open. Religious freedom and all.
Posted by: ruprecht   2020-04-01 18:15  

#3  #2 I noticed that all West European countries/US states go through 3 stages with novel coronavirus*
(1) Shouldn't panic, just another flu, not harm our pwesious economy - like economy doesn't need people going about their business without worrying of getting infected and passing it to their families?
(2) As the numbers of infected and dead increase, and people begin to panic, the part about "exponential growth (in virgin field) begins to penetrate, and instructions about "social distancing" begin to be issued.
(3) Since it doesn't work --- day late & dollar short, governments begin tightening the screws to complete lockdown. Except, of course, lockdown isn't possible.
Hopefully, with all the new/old drugs, passive immunization, new respirators & hospitals, masks in public, the lethality can be decreased. And with antibody tests, we'll know who is safe.

*Not gonna call it Wuhan Flu since it's not a flue (see my post on vaccination)
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-01 15:37  

#2  Just the other day I saw them being touted by some polyannas as the model we should be following.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2020-04-01 14:45  

#1  The wiki link
See the graph - that's what I call exponential
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-01 12:27  

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