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Home Front: Culture Wars
Ancient Greek lore no longer 'propaganda tool' and bullshi*
2020-01-01
[greenwichtime.com] These were the fierce warrior women of Ancient Greek lore who supposedly sparred with Hercules, lived in lesbian matriarchies and hacked off their breasts so they could fire their arrows better. Homer immortalized them in the Iliad. Eons later, they played a central role in the Wonder Woman comics.

Some historians argued they were probably a propaganda tool created to keep Athenian women in line. Another theory suggested that they may have been beardless men mistaken for women by the Greeks.

But a growing body of archaeological evidence shows that legends about the horseback-riding, bow-wielding female fighters were almost certainly rooted in reality. Myths about the Amazons' homosexuality and self-mutilation are still dubious at best, but new research appears to confirm that there really were groups of nomadic women who trained, hunted and battled alongside their male counterparts in the Eurasian steppe.

In a landmark discovery revealed earlier this month, archaeologists unearthed the remains of four female warriors buried with a cache of arrowheads, spears and horseback riding equipment in a tomb in Western Russia - right where Ancient Greek stories placed the Amazons.

The team from the Institute of Archaeology of the Russian Academy of Sciences identified the women as Scythian nomads who were interred at a burial site some 2,500 years ago near the present-day community of Devitsa. The women ranged in age from early teens to late 40s, according to the archaeologists. And the eldest of the women was found wearing a golden ceremonial headdress, a calathus, engraved with floral ornaments - an indication of stature.

The discovery represents some of the most detailed evidence to date that female warriors weren't just the stuff of ancient fiction, according to Adrienne Mayor, author of The Amazons: Lives and Legends of Warrior Women across the Ancient World.
Posted by:Besoeker

#10  Perhaps the Amazons identified as men...
Posted by: ruprecht   2020-01-01 18:47  

#9  
Posted by: Lex   2020-01-01 14:51  

#8  Peachy Carnehan: ... one day they come and they took him down and they said it was a miracle he wasn't dead and then they set him down and they let him go. And Peachy come home, in about, a year. And the mountains they tried to fall on old Peachy, but he was quite safe because Daniel walked before him. And Daniel never let go of Peachy's hand and Peachy never let go of Daniel's head.

Rudyard Kipling: [aghast] His head?

Peachy Carnehan: You knew Danny, sir. Oh, yes, you knew, most Worshipful Brother.
[Takes something out of the sack he is carrying and places it on a table]

Peachy Carnehan: Daniel Dravot, Esquire. Well, he became king of Kafiristan, with a crown on his head and that's all there is to tell. I'll be on my way now sir, I've got urgent business in the south, I have to meet a man in Marwar Junction.

[Peachy limps out of the room. Kipling opens the sack and removes Daniel's decaying head with the golden crown still on his head]
Posted by: Lex   2020-01-01 14:44  

#7  Daniel Dravot (with help from Peachy Carnehan) took it from them around 1880.

Daniel Dravot : In any place where they fight, a man who knows how to drill men can always be a King. We shall go to those parts and say to any King we find - "D'you want to vanquish your foes?' and we will show him how to drill men; for that we know better than anything else. Then we will subvert that King and seize his Throne and establish a Dynasty.
Posted by: Lex   2020-01-01 14:39  

#6  Sorry, pashto.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-01-01 14:09  

#5  Kandahar is in fact a contraction from Isikanderhar, Alexander in urdu is Sikander.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-01-01 14:08  

#4  Alexander the great took it from Persia in 330 BC.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-01-01 14:06  

#3  Fascinating, Dron66046. But how/when did the Geeks come to have territory in Afghanistan?
Posted by: trailing wife   2020-01-01 13:59  

#2  Greek provincial governor named Seleucus Nikator lost to Indian king Chandragupta Maurya (Sandrakottos), attempting to take part of the Punjab in 303 BC. To seal a peace treaty, Chandragupta gifted Seleucus around 500 war elepants in exchange for the Greek holdings in Afganistan, Seleucus' own daughter and some Greek women. Martial training - riding horses, wrestling, stealth, archery and swordsmanship was necessary training for female staff, queens and wives of officers in the Mauryan empire. Those Greek women became the all-female, special squad who guarded the king. Their exploits and records in archery and kills in skirmishes are written of in Megasthenes' accounts and by Indian historians. There's a book 'Badasses' too which mentions them.

It is believed Chandragupta relieved some of their service and sent them to Seleucus' successor, Antiochus I Soter to show him the value of women fighters. Fearful of the superior fighting skills of these women, he posted them somewhere in Boeotia where they later established their own matriarchal fiefdom. The tradition of women special forces could also have carried across to parts of Europe too as relations with the Mauryan Empire were stronger by 185 BC.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-01-01 13:48  

#1  The origin of community property law? From Amazons to Germanic tribes to Spain and the new world.
Posted by: BrujoTejano    2020-01-01 13:08  

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