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Afghanistan
Get The Hell Out Of Afghanistan Now
2019-12-19
Here's Kurt
Surprising no one, recent revelations demonstrate that not only is Afghanistan a hopeless wreck but our glorious foreign policy elite has been lying about it for going on two decades. Remember, these people are our betters, our moral superiors, the people we should genuflect to and obey because of their wisdom and insights and credentials. And they are lying garbage people. If it wasn’t for the ridiculous impeachment foolishness, maybe our country could focus on this endless disaster ‐ and one that is still killing our best and our bravest.
Part of the program?
Here’s the bottom line. Donald Trump’s instincts were right when he looked at this Seventh Century wasteland and asked (I’m paraphrasing), "What the hell are we doing still being here?"

We need to get out of Afghanistan yesterday. The 4K Trump’s supposed to be pulling out soon should be the down payment. Bring our troops all home.

The Taliban rules the countryside. The drug warlords are laughing at us. Our corrupt "allies" are raking in our cash, with trillions of our dollars spraying out of a massive spigot that the beneficiaries don’t want to cut off. But worse, our troops are dying in drips and drabs. Hell, a year ago one of my friends got shot there by somebody pretending to be our ally right up until the moment that turd decided to blast the infidels with a weapon we probably bought him. I do not presume to speak for my friend and I have no idea where he stands on the politics ‐ like all our great soldiers, he’ll go where ordered and do his utmost ‐ but I’m retired and I know where I stand.

...Were we defeated? Not in any meaningful sense. We just have nothing to gain by fighting it anymore. We came to kill al-Qaeda. We killed heaps of those scumbags. But somehow that mission morphed into making Afghanistan a place that didn’t suck. That’s crazy. It’s always sucked and it always will suck and its suckiness is not our problem.

...So, what happens to our allies? Some of our "allies" are apparently less allies than parasites. They’ll be fine, and if they aren’t, too bad. The ones who truly stood with us, who fought beside our men and shed blood with them, we should take care of. That might mean arming them. That might mean bringing them here. But it does not mean running on this miserable rat wheel forever.

"But," warn those who want to stay, "if we abandon our allies what message does that send?" Well, it sends the message that if we prop you up for two decades and you still can’t hack it, yeah, you’re on your own. That is not a bad message to send.

There Was No “secret War On The Truth” In Afghanistan
Another response to the Washington Post thing, and a reminder to never trust the Post.
[WarOnTheRocks] The story the Post is telling is neither wholly true, nor supported by the documents it published. Instead, the Post’s reporting puts sensationalist spin on information that was not classified, has already been described in publicly-available reports, only covers a fraction of the 18 years of the war, and falls far short of convincingly demonstrating a campaign of deliberate lies and deceit.
And then he lays it out, with links, in scathing detail.
Posted by:g(r)omgoru

#8  Kid is potentially headed there after Christmas ugh
Posted by: Rightwing   2019-12-19 18:41  

#7  OK, but let's not forget the debt of gratitude we owe the Afghan people for beating the crap out of Robert Fisk.
Posted by: Matt   2019-12-19 14:40  

#6  /\ Henry Kissinger provided Donald a helping hand.
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-12-19 11:57  

#5  Rumsfeld set up the war, he set up Viet Nam. He hade the same mistakes twice expecting a different outcome. We should have never gone in in force. We should have bombed every inch of the place and left it a smoking hole.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2019-12-19 11:41  

#4  The GI has always referred to Iraq and AFG Over There as the "Big Suck."
Posted by: Skidmark   2019-12-19 09:32  

#3  WAPO slogan is "Democracy dies in darkness." WAPO must be counting on this.
Posted by: JohnQC   2019-12-19 08:53  

#2  We could 'rebuild' Germany and Japan, because we first bombed the **** out of them down to their domiciles. They knew they were beaten. There was no outside agent to give them succor. Then we utilized existing western or adopted western local institutions that had been in place for generations to 'nation build' among people who had a solid national identity. None of that was present in Afghanistan. However, that lure of a generation long past blinded the ruling caste into thinking they could ignore the quicksand they sought to build a nation on.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-12-19 08:04  

#1  We came to kill al-Qaeda. We killed heaps of those scumbags. But somehow that mission morphed into making Afghanistan a place that didn’t suck. That’s crazy. It’s always sucked and it always will suck and its suckiness is not our problem.

The GI has always referred to Iraq and AFG as the "Big Suck."
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-12-19 04:55  

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