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Home Front: WoT
Manhunt for missing Saudis, hundreds of thousands of visa overstays
2019-12-09
In which the editorialist riffs off the events caused by Saudi 2nd Lieutenant Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani at the Pensacola Naval Base a few days ago. Only new information, and the riff, posted here.
[LawEnforcementToday] Defense Secretary Mark Esper spoke to the press on Friday after the horrific display, saying that he wanted "to make sure we’re doing our due diligence to understand what are our procedures," concerning the training programs that lead to this outcome.

According to sources at the air station, the shooting had taken place inside of a classroom where students of the program spend the first initial months of their training there. Based upon that scope, it can be deduced that the shooter was likely a recent addition to the program.

It’s worth pointing out what appears to be a weakened vetting program for those coming into America.
Posted by:trailing wife

#16  Let's be honest. A $1,000 a head bounty would solve the problem.

Simple, done.
Posted by: Woodrow   2019-12-09 21:03  

#15  ^ Okay, Congress isn't likely to change, but reading the above I dreamed a quick little dream of... not a future... an alternative present in which legislation might conceivably pass requiring those sentences, with a word modified here and there, to be carved on the Capitol. Made my minute.
Posted by: Crusoger Gurly-Brown7734   2019-12-09 20:12  

#14  Congress creates problems like this. They are not in business to solve problems. Congress is part of the problem. Do not look to them for solutions. They are not in that business.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2019-12-09 17:06  

#13  Put a bounty on the head of every overstay. Dead or alive.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2019-12-09 12:24  

#12  Don't be silly - the Dems need the votes!
Posted by: Bobby   2019-12-09 10:41  

#11  Since the Saudi's are not cooperating how about a new policy of holding these fellows for a month of interrogation before kicking them out FOREVER and including Saudi Arabia on the banned list of the super-extra takes almost a decade of background checks level of scrutiny before they get a visa.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2019-12-09 10:15  

#10  I think the theory that DHS has been using is that, if an overstay is not breaking the law then they are probably doing something useful and it makes no sense to use resources to track them down and deport them.

Thousands of overstays work in assisted living, in landscaping and lawn care, in hospitality, in auto repair. Although the companies that hire them could probably survive if they were not employed it would be a big adjustment (wages would go up, prices would go up)
Posted by: lord garth   2019-12-09 09:34  

#9  There was no accurate method for tracking overstays or their whereabouts.

select PERSON_ID, PERSON_LOC from VISA_DATE_TABLE where SYSDATE-VISA_DATE.gt. 6MO_LIMIT
Posted by: Skidmark   2019-12-09 09:18  

#8  *hoovered up
Posted by: Lex   2019-12-09 09:01  

#7  Of course they can be found. Fer chrissake, you can't exist today without generating thousands of digital footprints that are hovered up into millions of data tables whose contents are shared across thousands of data exchanges.

Verizon and AT&T alone have enough info identify, locate, instantiate the phones of every single one of these characters with 100% accuracy.

There is no real barrier here. It's the will that's lacking.

Our elites-- our shitty tech oligarchs as well as our political Shitshow ringmasters -- simply don't want us to find and deport people who've overstayed their visas.
Posted by: Lex   2019-12-09 09:00  

#6  Be a day late paying your credit card bill. They'll find you...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2019-12-09 08:52  

#5  How about an implanted tracking device? That would turn into a bomb if you went out of your assigned region, or didn't report in time.
I know I've seen a lot of science fiction movies that show how to do this.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2019-12-09 08:17  

#4  no accurate method for tracking overstays or their whereabouts.

Facial recognition + big data processing have progressed enormously in the last decade and will progress even more rapidly over the next 3-4 years.

This really isn't that hard of a problem to solve.
Assuming, of course, that the Uniparty actually wants it solved.
Posted by: Lex   2019-12-09 08:06  

#3  >There was no accurate method for tracking overstays or their whereabouts.

Automatic Bail posting would work. When you arrive you deposit bail, when you leave on time you get it back.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2019-12-09 07:54  

#2  Had the same problem with Iranians when the embassy was overrun back in Carter's time. File under - Lessons Not Learned. But hey, they're Muzzies, so the judiciary has bent over backwards to make this all possible.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-12-09 05:19  

#1  There was no accurate method for tracking overstays or their whereabouts.

Keeping the doors shut and ensuring window screens are in place and fully functional really is key. I haven't had a wasp or carpenter bee in the house for many years

At one time there were programs in place to vet, track, and ...get acquainted with foreign military students coming to the US. Of course if your current emphasis is upending elected officials, the foreign military student program probably isn't getting the attention it deserves.
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-12-09 03:59  

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