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Iraq
9 More Shot Dead as Protesters in Iraq Now Calling for Revolution
2019-11-25
[PJ] Whatever reasons protesters in Iraq originally took to the streets to express their frustration with the government hve now been tossed aside and outright revolution has become their goal.

The demonstrations all across Iraq began last month, triggered by the graft and corruption of the political class. But as many of their number were gunned down in the streets by snipers believed to be a part of the Iranian-controlled Shia militias, the crowds are now demanding nothing less than an overturning of the entire political system, starting with election laws that perpetrate the corruption.

These are Shia kids dying in the street, children of the post-Saddam revolution that saw Shiites go from being second class citizens to dominating the government. But with youth unemployment at 30 percent and intermittent electrical and water service making their lives frustrating and difficult, many of them don't care what religious sect is in charge, they want change.

Posted by:Besoeker

#7  I was one of those neo-cons. The fact is that under Saddam Hussein, all sorts of terrorists — including Al Qaeda cadres among the Moslem jihadis and the Catholic Irish Republican Army among others — were trained at the Salman Pak facility by Iraqi Special Forces in all sorts of terror techniques, from how to hijack an airplane (using the passenger jet parked on the grounds) to advanced bomb making and bio-weapons manufacture. We have 66 articles touching on Salman Pak in the Rantburg archive — take a look.

But the fact is, bad things got in Iraq and therefore Syria, at least they don’t have the training and research of a very rich and vicious nation state training and guiding them to ever higher levels of competence, In fact, as I recall something like 50,000 ISIS fighters have been killed since we reconquered their little caliphate, among whom are no doubt a great many who had that professional training. What the world will be dealing with going forward is mostly the second and third tiers of ability, which may explain why there have been fewer and smaller attacks recently.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-11-25 23:48  

#6  Just a reminder that it was the neo-cons who decided to disband the Baath party.

These were the same people who came up with the idea for the invasion in the first place. They aren't too bright. Their entire idea was "overthrow Saddam" with absolutely no plan for what they were going to do afterwards. That it turned out poorly is no surprise.
Posted by: Herb McCoy   2019-11-25 23:24  

#5  Shoulda left the post-Saddam Ba'athists in power to keep the lights on, air conditioning running, garbage picked up and [human] garbage disposed of.

When PM of Israel & king of Saudi give you the same advice, you should listen.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2019-11-25 16:31  

#4  'Revolution' in MidEast means only 3 things:

More Islam, Less Islam or Islam: Which Flavor?

Posted by: Bob Grorong1136   2019-11-25 16:06  

#3  hindsight, 20/20 etc
Posted by: Lex   2019-11-25 02:10  

#2  ^ Shoulda left the post-Saddam Ba'athists in power to keep the lights on, air conditioning running, garbage picked up and [human] garbage disposed of.

Probably also shoulda partitioned the country, with a forward US Airbase in an independent Kurdistan to keep a lid on Iranian mischief.
Posted by: Lex   2019-11-25 02:10  

#1  I had such hopes for Iraq after Saddam got his ass kicked. OK, it wasn't hope hope, but they deserved a chance to get beyond the tribal thing and become a modern country. Pity they couldn't pull it off.
Posted by: SteveS   2019-11-25 00:54  

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