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China-Japan-Koreas
SKor signs DEFENSE AGREEMENT WITH CHINA!
2019-11-20
[Telegraph + Twitter + Zeihan]
Posted by:3dc

#8  Make friends with China...

Sign up for the Two Countries, One System program. I hear they are having a special.
Posted by: SteveS   2019-11-20 14:19  

#7  Make friends with China...
Right, sure thing you can be a "friend" with the Imperial Dragon. Now, a useful puppet state, that is doable.
...and maybe you can survive and re-absorb North Korea when it's dynasty finally implodes out of inbred craziness.
Posted by: magpie   2019-11-20 13:48  

#6  Makes sense to me. Major threats to South Korea come from China and North Korea who is somewhat of a China puppet. Make friends with China and your security is a bit more secure. it's not as if they'll be called up to defend China against invasion as the west has no plans for that.

It will probable be used to peal them away from Taiwan, but South Korea has to do what is in South Korea's best interests and if this can leverage NOrth Korea safety so be it.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2019-11-20 13:29  

#5  Hey, Dron, according to Thucydides Athens' allies constantly complained about Athens - them's the breaks when you're the big boy.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2019-11-20 09:23  

#4  China who throws dough at them, almost unconditionally.

If China is involved, the conditions will be revealed later — and they won’t be generous.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-11-20 08:56  

#3  yeah, sort of like the US and Russia signed a 'guarantee' to protect the Ukraine in return for them giving up their nukes. Then there was the quid pro quo agreement between the Bush administration and Libya to give up their WMD program in return for being left alone.

They're not paying attention that Trump wants the remove the American 'hostages' from around the world.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-11-20 06:51  

#2  You will find on scrutiny of their policies, that most Asian countries except for Japan and Israel are ultimately thankless ingrates that will just as soon turn against you as they vehemently attack your enemies with rhetoric. Fair weather friends. This conceit is rooted in not only the cultures of respective societies in these countries, but is also a result of witnessing or being a victim of high handedness by some of Uncle Sam's previous administrations. It's a sad reality. No one trusts each other, and not many societies value or unilaterally accept responsibility.

Trump realized this long ago, in his businessman avatar. It's a wise decision in the long run, purely from a practical viewpoint; to disengage with welfare and security for the whole world, and concentrate on reinforcing his own ramparts.

States that benefit off the US in some way do not see it as an ally or a partner in equal responsibilities. They see it as 'the one with too much for one country, enough to share'. They feel they aren't obliged to any kind of loyalty and can change sugar daddies as and when necessary. The repeated attempts of American politicians to try and imprint their image as saviors on other societies is a typical western conceit, re-paid again and again by ingratitude and mistrust.

Why do I say this ? By experience. India sees this attitude all the time with the smaller nations we help on their way to some modicum of modernity and security. And watch them walk over to China who throws dough at them, almost unconditionally.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-11-20 03:47  

#1  They benefit wildly from our troops being there. If they don't want to pay fair market rates, screw 'em. Why is the US in the business of providing welfare to wealthy First World countries? Ones that can easily pay for their own defense?
Posted by: Herb McCoy   2019-11-20 03:03  

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