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Home Front: Politix
The Maidan's Tail
2019-11-18
[KausFiles] I haven't tweeted anything that's pissed off as many people as this (on 11/12) :

    I suppose if the Respectable Interagency Consensus on Ukraine is willing to righteously remove a democratically elected president -- in Ukraine (2014) -- it's not such a big step to justify doing the same thing in the US.

Tufts professor Dan Drezner immediately tweeted, paternally, "you're more than a bit out of your depth"-- though he was understandably too busy to explain why. David Frum chided that Trump wasn't "democratically elected," since Hillary won the popular vote ‐ a point echoed by a massive Twitter troll army that apparently follows Frum (who knew?).
Posted by:g(r)omgoru

#2  Kaus is indeed out of his depth, and playing with fire. Then again, so we're Victoria Nuland and John McCain.

What they all fail to grasp is that Ukraine = Africa with white faces.

There won't be a stable democracy with rule of law and a robust civil society in Ukraine anytime in the next 25 years any more than Libya or Zimbabwe or Mali or Congo will attain stability and good government in that time frame. Won't happen.

Ukraine is Russia's Russia. It's corruption squared, with ethnic and political hatred and separatism layered on top of a dysfunctional society and a legacy of the most brutal anti-semitism beneath it.

On top of all of this is the hard fact that Ukraine stands between Russia and its most important warm-water port, one that sits in a peninsula that is as near and dear to the Russian historical memory as Boston, or maybe the Alamo, is to us.

Yes, Putin's a thug surrounded by gangsters. That's beside the point, which is that there is no way on God's green earth that ANY Russian government, even the most liberal or pro-western, would ever tolerate an independent Ukraine joining NATO.

Face it: our Ukraine "experts" played with fire and burned their fingers. Perfesser Dreznee doesn't know any better than his most naive freshman student does regarding what should be done about Ukraine.

And gadflies like Mickey Kaus, David Frum and their ilk should stop using this pathetically dysfunctional country as a way to settle domestic American scores.

Stop Americanizing and politicizing everything. Try seeing the world as it is for once.

/rant
Posted by: Lex    2019-11-18 09:50  

#1  And at the very end of the thing:

** — The apparent urge among Trump opponents to lower the bar for impeachment (until the U.S. becomes effectively the sort of parliamentary system rejected in the Constitution) recently became explicit in anti-Trumper Jonah Goldberg’s case, when he tweeted that “the president ultimately serves at the pleasure of Congress.” That wasn’t the idea.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-11-18 09:07  

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