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What would an all-out war between Turkey and the SDF entail?
2019-10-08
Key bits from a longer piece:
[Rudaw] According to Dr Micha’el Tanchum, a senior fellow at the Austrian Institute for Europe
...the land mass occupying the space between the English Channel and the Urals, also known as Moslem Lebensraum...
an and Security Studies (AIES), a large-scale Ottoman Turkish invasion "risks Ankara becoming mired in a quagmire that may also spread north of the border".

"By maintaining military positions across Syria and in Iraq, The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...the decaying remnant of the Ottoman Empire...
is stretching its need for force protection against guerrilla operations," Tanchum told Rudaw English.

Turkey has expanded its operations against the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq since early 2018. It established several new forward operating bases in areas where the PKK is active. From August 2018, it has also had some success in killing senior PKK members through targeted air and dronezaps, a first in the decades-long conflict.

In May it launched Operation Claw against the group, which after three different phases is still ongoing as of writing.

Tanchum believes that a major war in northeast Syria could see a convergence of sorts, with the SDF fighting Turkey in northeast Syria while the PKK also fights Ottoman Turkish forces in southeast Turkey and possibly even in the Kurdistan Region simultaneously.

"Turkey has no shortage of adversaries who would fund and supply guerrillas for such a campaign," he said, adding that "much will depend" on what kind of arrangements Turkey has made with Russia, the Syrian regime and Iran.

"The greatest threat would be concurrent guerrilla campaigns against Turkey in northern Syria and within southern Turkey itself," he said.

Tanchum offers the precedent of youth militias in Turkey’s Kurdish regions back in 2015.

"Turkey could face another popular uprising spearheaded by similar militias in the southeast," he said.

Tanchum noted that the YPG ‐ the main component of the multiethnic SDF ‐ has had "close to a year to prepare for the eventuality of a Ottoman Turkish invasion".

"There have been reports of extensive tunnel building in northeast Syria," he said.

"Turkey’s administration of a large swath of northern Syria may prove more costly than Ankara anticipates, depending on the response of Kurds on both sides of the border."
Posted by:trailing wife

#10  There is a long, long history dating back for centuries of animosity and war between Russia and Turkey. They don't like each other.

It sounds like a lovely little war to stay the hell out of. We need to secure our own border before we worry about Kurds, Turks and Syrians.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2019-10-08 13:54  

#9  I suspect Turkey will apply its Armenian 'solution' to its Kurdish 'problem.'
Posted by: Glenmore   2019-10-08 12:16  

#8  ruprect,

ethnic Kurds already outnumber ethnic Turks in almost all the southeast part of the country

next Presidential election is scheduled for 2023

interestingly, Erdogan's party, the AKP, aka Adalet ve Kalkınma, aka Justice and Development, has a registered membership system; in the past year they lost about 7% of their members


Posted by: lord garth   2019-10-08 12:11  

#7  I would think that if Turkey invades Kurdish Syria they might end up with uprising in Kurdish Turkey with safe zones in Kurish Iraq.

From what I understand Demographically the Kurds will eventually replace the Turks as the majority in Anatolia. i'm not sure when but I suspect the Turks do and are hoping to solve the problem now before they are on the other side of the genocide line.
Posted by: ruprecht   2019-10-08 10:08  

#6  ^We are the third Rome, heirs of Constantinople.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2019-10-08 08:46  

#5  Interesting, just where does Russia stand on all that? Heh. Continue making inroads with Turkey or back Assad as they have for years now? Decisions, decisions, decisions. If he wasn't such an 'idiot' I'd suspect someone is playing a deep game.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-10-08 08:26  

#4  Up = down
Night = day
Slavery = freedom
America's interests = Erdogan's interests

VOTE SWAMPY 2020
Posted by: Lex   2019-10-08 08:00  

#3  What would an all-out war between Turkey and the SDF entail?

Lots of SDF personnel who, when questioned by western journalists, reply "Ya ne govoryu po-angliski"?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2019-10-08 03:31  

#2  The Hill - Susan Rice calls Trump decision to pull troops from Syria 'batshit crazy'

Posted by: Besoeker   2019-10-08 00:53  

#1  The more I read and listen, it appears that nearly all of the MSM is against Trump's annoucement of a pull-back of 50-100 advisors. The fact there is universal MSM condemnation of his decision makes a person suspicious. It seems like quite a few people would like to keep the U.S. mired in some M.E. conflict. Turkey has had a 35 year history of sparring with the far left Kurdistan Worker's Party, a part of the S.D.F.
Posted by: JohnQC   2019-10-08 00:48  

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