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| Trump's real Ukraine reasons |
| 2019-10-01 |
| [American Thinker] Today’s Ukraine news, with all its wild characters, crooks, and conspiracies -- just to narrow it down to the Democrats -- is reminiscent to me of the 1957 Apalachin meeting, the secret, grand conference of the American mafia, which the local police raided and exposed, all to the great discomfiture of the country’s establishment . Despite furious resistance from their media allies, our new mafia, the Deep State is being exposed as well, thanks to the ongoing mess in the Ukraine. Recall, it was mostly with the help of the Obama State Department and various Soros-backed NGOs that the old Putin-aligned leader in Kiev was kicked out in 2014 and the subsequent regime was pretty much put at the beck and call of D.C. Democrats; getting Hunter Biden his dough, or helping out Fusion GPS, etc. They even had a scheme for international lefties to take over Eastern Orthodox churches, starting with the one in Ukraine. Our old ambassador, Marie Yovanovich, was very much part of this Obama/Soros axis that’s -- why the new Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky so bluntly told President Trump, "Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough." The reason our Deep State and its allies do not like Zelensky and backed the corruption-plagued Poroshenko is that they know Zelensky, while no Russian stooge, wants to make peace with Putin. Since his election, the shooting has abated in the Donbass, and it was reported just recently, the two sides may be close to a real peace settlement. This is something Trump has long encouraged, but is what the Deep State hates, because it would lead to most of the current sanctions on Russia being lifted. ...This is too much for Official Washington, the Deep State, and all its media allies. They want to bravely fight the Donbass War to the last dead Ukrainian, or Donald Trump’s impeachment, whichever gets the best ratings. |
| Posted by:g(r)omgoru |
| #5 There is every reason to try to make Russia a partner that helps us against China and that lightens our load in the ME and the war against the islamists. We have zero national interest in Ukraine. Make them neutral a la Finland or Austria during the Cold War. Soft partition the country, give autonomy to the East, let each side's oligarchs and thieves continue to muddle and wallow and maybe move a little bit sideways. But there is no reason for us to continue to provoke Russia there, or for Russia not to tolerate an independent, and completely nonaligned, government in the western part of the country. Bring this to a conclusion and move on to more important issues. |
| Posted by: Lex 2019-10-01 16:23 |
| #4 Abu, Russia betrayed Socialism. And Putin is a parvenu detested by our patrician socialists. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2019-10-01 15:22 |
| #3 A peace prize winner wanted a pointless war to continue?!? |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2019-10-01 14:14 |
| #2 I asked the question here some time ago after Russia and Ukraine had already been fighting for some years with no side appearing to achieve any advantage from it: Why don't they just stop it? Is the writer here telling us that they didn't stop it because Obama wanted them to keep fighting? Except for Iran, I really don't understand our enmity with Russia. Putin is not a nice guy but at least he's not Xi Jinping. Oh, that's right. He's not as rich as Xi. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2019-10-01 13:15 |
| #1 The reason our Deep State and its allies do not like Zelensky and backed the corruption-plagued Poroshenko is that they know Zelensky, while no Russian stooge, wants to make peace with Putin. Politics is the art of the possible. If you can't "Win A War" then the next best thing is to get out of one as gracefully as possible. Bleeding for another ten years or so because other parties want the Ukraine to bleed Putin's neo-imperialist Russia is not a winning move for Ukraine. |
| Posted by: magpie 2019-10-01 10:19 |