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America's 233-Year-Old Shock at Jihad
2019-03-27
[AmericanThinker] Exactly 233 years ago this week, two of America’s founding fathers documented their first exposure to Islamic jihad in a letter to Congress; like many Americans today, they too were shocked at what they learned.

Context: in 1785, Muslim pirates from North Africa, or "Barbary," had captured two American ships, the Maria and Dauphin, and enslaved their crews. In an effort to ransom the enslaved Americans and establish peaceful relations, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams -- then ambassadors to France and England respectively -- met with Tripoli’s ambassador to Britain, Abdul Rahman Adja. Following this diplomatic exchange, they laid out the source of the Barbary States’ hitherto inexplicable animosity to American vessels in a letter to Congress dated March 28, 1786:

We took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the grounds of their [Barbary’s] pretentions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. The ambassador answered us that it was founded on the laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise

One need not conjecture what the American ambassadors -- who years earlier had asserted that all men were "endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights" -- thought of their Muslim counterpart’s answer. Suffice to say, because the ransom demanded was over fifteen times greater than what Congress had approved, little came of the meeting.
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Posted by:Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

#6  They were men of the Enlightenment, and sadly, the Enlightenment has no idea how to permanently deal with Dark Age savagery.

So we have temporary expediences and "shock and awe" and then we get bored and frustrated and hope the problem goes away or can be sufficiently mitigated to be forgotten or ignored.

And then it starts all over again.

Something tells me that Locke and Hume and Voltaire and Montesquieu ain't gonna be the answer,
Posted by: charger   2019-03-27 19:44  

#5  The Revolutionary War Navy was before the US Government was official and the colonies were not occupied by British forces, of which George Washington would become the first US President, and who would then form the official US Navy as described below www.History.Navy.Mil.

Naval History and Heritage Command

Some three months before President Washington signed the Naval Act of 1794 into law ─ the act authorizing the construction of the Navy’s first six frigates ─ Congress passed a resolution to establish with haste a national navy that could protect U.S. commercial vessels from attacks by Barbary pirates in the Mediterranean and nearby Atlantic waters.

The resolution passed narrowly ─ 46 to 44 ─ and resulted in the creation of a nine-man committee to study issues of naval buildup, especially cost and size. On 6 February 1794, the committee recommended four 44-gun ships and two 20-gun ships.

Congressional debate on whether to act on the committee’s recommendation lasted until 10 March and built on years of indecision and ambivalence on the issue of a national navy. While everyone agreed that the British were behind the Barbary attacks and were otherwise imperiling United States trade in the West Indies and elsewhere, there were sharp differences of opinion on whether the establishment of a navy might help or hurt Americans’ chances of maintaining neutrality in this most dangerous moment...


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Posted by: Neville Dark Lord of the Wee Folk7365   2019-03-27 10:18  

#4  Which is why Jefferson had a copy of the koran. "Tom what the hell is going on with these muslims"?

Sadly 233 years later we refuse to condemn a murderous death cult founded by a pedophile caravan robber. The story of his child sex trades and slaughter in Medina should have been enough.
Posted by: Woodrow   2019-03-27 08:35  

#3  captured two American ships, the Maria and Dauphin, and enslaved their crews.

Slave reparations anybody? Seems at the time, slaving was an equal opportunity operation regardless of race, color, or creed.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-03-27 08:01  

#2  The US Navy was created at the very beginning of the Revolutionary War. Ezek Hopkins was the first Commodore.
Posted by: Uleck Spererong9442   2019-03-27 06:41  

#1  And thus the US Navy was created to defeat the Barbary Pirates.
Posted by: Ebbavirt Clunk4147   2019-03-27 04:27  

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