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France's Macron tries to becomes the new leader of Europe by picking a fight with Trump
2018-11-08
[Wash Insider] On Tuesday, French President Emmanuel Macron listed the United States a threat to Europe alongside China and Russia. Speaking in a radio interview at Verdun, a major World War I battle site, Macron said, "We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia, and even the United States of America." He went on to explain, "We will not protect the Europeans unless we decide to have a true European army."

There are two key takeaways here.

For one thing, Macron, with his strong language against the U.S. and talk of a European army, is clearly positioning himself to fill German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s shoes in European leadership.

Since Merkel’s announcement that she was stepping down from party leadership of the Christian Democratic Union and that she would not seek reelection, a clear successor in Germany and the E.U. has yet to emerge. Macron, elected as a centrist and a clear rejection of Marie Le Pen’s far-right politics, could be a good fit for the role and solidify a post-Brexit E.U.

Aside from signaling his own ambitions, Macron’s words are also a clear warning to President Trump about his treatment of key U.S. allies in Europe.

A sticking point in his relationship with the U.S. is Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty, known as INF, with Russia. That agreement, originally signed by Ronald Reagan and his Soviet counterpart Mikhail Gorbachev in 1987, paved the way for both countries to cut down their nuclear arms in one of the most successful arms control deals in history.
Posted by:Besoeker

#23  They were at their best when lead by a Corsican (which at the time of his birth was part of Genoa).
Posted by: Procopius2k   2018-11-08 20:29  

#22  The French military has always suffered from poor political leadership. Sigh.
Posted by: Clith FootnMouth7248   2018-11-08 19:37  

#21  French. The inventors of crotchless underwear. Because they don't want shit stains on their surrender monkey white flags.
Posted by: Woodrow   2018-11-08 18:54  

#20  As I recall, Attila the Hun was also quite fond of Persian carpets...
Posted by: trailing wife   2018-11-08 18:00  

#19  ...And Attila the Hun "Had an active, outdoor lifestyle. He was also a fabulous, simply fabulous equestrian! [*Gushes enthusiastically]"
Posted by: magpie   2018-11-08 17:02  

#18  Just in case you haven't heard about the whole thing (not likely on RB):

Referring to Pétain, Mr Macron said: "He was a great soldier".
Sure. And Vichy has good water.
Posted by: European Conservative   2018-11-08 16:35  

#17  Mmmh they do good steaks there :-)
Posted by: European Conservative   2018-11-08 16:30  

#16  Sorry EC, my bad. I owe you a rump steak at the Pörrbacher Hof.
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-11-08 16:26  

#15  Heh heh
Posted by: Frank G   2018-11-08 16:09  

#14  Besoeker, I think a double face palm would be more accurate.
Posted by: European Conservative   2018-11-08 16:08  

#13  Macron has just defended Pétain. Lovely.
Posted by European Conservative.
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-11-08 16:00  

#12  With some luck German politics is about to change. Friedrich Merz, who might become the next CDU party boss, is a free market, conservative, US-friendly competent politician. He hasn't said anything about Trump yet and would deal with him on a non-emotional matter of fact level.

Macron has just defended Pétain. Lovely.
Posted by: European Conservative   2018-11-08 15:58  

#11  Trump should respond by pulling out of NATO and establishing a defense pact with Eastern Europe instead.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2018-11-08 15:45  

#10  NATO

Please tell me why we are subsidizing first world countries? We left the post-WWII world of feeble Euro states back in the 80s when just the combined population and GDP of the Western nations exceeded ours. Two attempts at cultural suicide in the 20th Century and now the latest in importing a huge non-assimilating population engaged in out populating the natives. You can not save them. You can only allow them to drag us down with them. Conserve your limited resources elsewhere.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2018-11-08 15:23  

#9  EU vassal state uprising suppression force.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2018-11-08 15:11  

#8  There are still a lot of Euro countries feeling threatened by Russia and don't wish to become client states. No need to break up NATO. That only accomplishes what France and Germany want. Better to economically squeeze them. They depend on our imports to fund their economy.
Posted by: Blackbeard Creretle1983   2018-11-08 14:01  

#7  #6 Fight's on. 50% tariff on all French products. --Blackbeard Creretle1983
Something far simpler: Tell him that if he is a Man, and not a bag of smelly farts, then dissolve NATO!
Posted by: magpie   2018-11-08 13:52  

#6  Fight's on. 50% tariff on all French products.
Posted by: Blackbeard Creretle1983   2018-11-08 13:34  

#5  Who, pray tell, will pay for this (quote) European Army (un-quote) officered by French Generals?
Posted by: magpie   2018-11-08 12:21  

#4  Reminds me of a joke:

A man walks into a bar one day and asks, "Does anyone here own that rottweiler outside?"

"Yeah, I do!" a biker says, standing up. "What about it?"

"Well, I think my chihuahua just killed him..."

"What are you talkin' about?!" the biker says, disbelievingly. "How could your little runt kill my rottweiler?"

"Well, it seems he got lodged in your dog's throat."
Posted by: gorb   2018-11-08 12:04  

#3  I dunno Frenchy, better men than thou hast gone down in flames after picking a fight with Trump. Don Surber maintains The Trumpenfreude List on his blog. Ninety-some names of those who have achieved infamy and misfortune after tangling with Trump. Coincidence? Karma? Who can say, but the list keeps growing.
Posted by: SteveS   2018-11-08 11:36  

#2  "We will not protect the Europeans unless we decide to have a true European army."

Would a 'European army' surrender faster or slower than a French army?
Posted by: Raj   2018-11-08 08:53  

#1  For informative historical perspectives Google: Vichy France, formally French State, French État Français, (July 1940–September 1944)

Special attention should be given the Vichy Government's treatment of the French Jewish communities.
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-11-08 08:13  

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