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| Stanford Doctors: It's Time To Ban All Semi-Automatic Firearms |
| 2018-09-19 |
| [Townhall] Over 2,500 medical students and healthcare professionals at over 30 leading medical centers held events on Monday urging the public to treat "gun violence" as a public health crisis, The Mercury News reported. The events were part of Scrubs Addressing the Firearms Epidemic (SAFE), a non-partisan action co-founded by Stanford’s Professor of Medicine Dr. Dean Winslow, a Republican, and fourth year medical student Sarabeth Spitzer, a Democrat. Winslow is a retired U.S. Air Force colonel and flight surgeon who was deployed six times to Iraq and Afghanistan. At Stanford, healthcare professionals spoke about the health risk associated with guns, the gun epidemic and trauma care. At the University of California San Francisco, two panels discussed California's firearms laws and recommended ways to talk to patients about firearm access, safety, and risk. According to Spain, it's difficult for medical professionals to get involved in the gun debate because of the political nature surrounding firearms. "If this were any other public health problem, we wouldn’t stand for it. But it’s such a hot button political topic that we lose the ability to talk about it," Spain told The Mercury News. "We’ve been a little slow. We’re politically adverse. Our mission is education and research. This is advocacy." Medical associations and groups have become involved in the gun control debate. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians and the American Medical Association are just a few who have thrown their hat into the arena. |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #23 a lot of the shooting around the Madison area is "respect" and "revenge" related, james, they could easily be the same people. Gang culture is notorious for such nonsense. if this is the Stanford in the heart of Silicon Valley they aren't likely to see a lot of gang violence. But they’ll know of it, rjschwarz. Philosophy doesn’t require actual experence, and is often hindered by it. ;-) and you have to take the savant part on faith. The problem with to many specialists looking outside their area of expertise — but deep understanding in one area does not necessarily translate to deep understanding in an unrelated area. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2018-09-19 22:01 |
| #22 as an ex-ass't hospital administrator, I have learned that most docs are idiot-savants and you have to take the savant part on faith. |
| Posted by: Thulet Spawn of the Boskonians1504 2018-09-19 18:28 |
| #21 trailing wife, I could be wrong but if this is the Stanford in the heart of Silicon Valley they aren't likely to see a lot of gang violence. Nearby Oakland and San Jose have gangs but they also have fine hospitals that would be much closer. East Palo Alto used to have gangs but I think they've been gentrified out of business. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2018-09-19 14:08 |
| #20 Dunno those newlines are coming from (noticed that before). Limerick reflex? I'll watch it. Physicians against Preventable Accidents Butchers Improving the Community's Health Physicians and Medical Professionals against Handgun Ownership Quacks United to Ethically End Recidivism Meh. Like DORK. |
| Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2018-09-19 13:01 |
| #19 Silly Assholes Fear Explosions |
| Posted by: magpie 2018-09-19 12:56 |
| #18 DORK... awesome. Doctors against Murder Now ("daaa-yummm") Physicians against Malpractice ("paaamp") |
| Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2018-09-19 12:52 |
| #17 Re #8, #9 on flight surgeons Thanks, and ouch. I even quoted that, didn't I? Pretty familiar with the flight surgeons' gig. I blame sleeplessness! And maybe an overactive subconscious (the only FS I knew well was of a completely different mindset than Doc Winslow). |
| Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2018-09-19 12:49 |
| #16 Doctors' Offices for Reduced Killings. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2018-09-19 12:43 |
| #15 Maybe the NRA could initiate advocacy group - Better Hospital and Doctors - BHAD - pronounced BAD. |
| Posted by: Bobby 2018-09-19 11:17 |
| #14 TW, I am not an expert, but I'm told by some that claim to be that a lot of the shooting around the Madison area is "respect" and "revenge" related, though drug conflicts are well represented too. |
| Posted by: james 2018-09-19 10:53 |
| #13 What a lame acronym. And in the age of acronyms. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2018-09-19 10:20 |
| #12 Their real concern is all the gunshot wounds they see in their emergency rooms due to gangs shooting illegally acquired handguns at all in the vicinity, but that is the result of a two-fold law enforcement problem: international narco-gangs having sneaked their people into America illegally to take over the local immigrant gangs, and the police and courts not being permitted to act seriously against such miscreants. A gun ban addresses the effect of illegal handgun onership by gangsters, not the cause, and targets the law-abiding who are not in either the perpetrating population or the victim population. File under Doctors Diagnosing Badly. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2018-09-19 09:56 |
| #11 Time to ban Stanford Doctors. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2018-09-19 09:09 |
| #10 Are they constitutional scholars too? Stay in your lane, jerkwads. Remember: Not all gun grabbers are fascists, but all fascists are gun grabbers. |
| Posted by: regular joe 2018-09-19 08:29 |
| #9 Ref #8: The occasional flight physical. Lower back problems and elbow strains. The usual golf injuries. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2018-09-19 07:21 |
| #8 Zenobia, he was a flight surgeon for the Air Force. I doubt any of his patients ever came under fire, let alone got hit. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2018-09-19 07:16 |
| #7 The doctor makes no mention of the "more than 115 people in the United States die after overdosing on opioids" each foking day. Link |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2018-09-19 06:41 |
| #6 Guns kill only a small fraction of people compared to mistakes and bungling in hospitals. Physician, heal thyself. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2018-09-19 03:33 |
| #5 retired U.S. Air Force colonel and flight surgeon who was deployed six times Then again... assuming he was treating trauma, who the hell am I to diss a guy like that? I'll shut up now. |
| Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2018-09-19 02:33 |
| #4 Self-Appointed Firearms Experts? |
| Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2018-09-19 02:30 |
| #3 "I think it's the big one," sez Sanford To the gatekeeping bastard that answered. Fred reckons the seconds, Elizabeth beckons... "Press '6' for main menu," sez Stanford. Meh. Getting a little Mad Max minimalist. |
| Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2018-09-19 02:28 |
| #2 "Department of Counterinsurgency! Your Second Amendment emergency? Try treating with ointment Or make an appointment For matters of medical urgency." |
| Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2018-09-19 02:23 |
| #1 Zip it up morons. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2018-09-19 02:14 |