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United Airlines CEO Apologizes After Video Shows Man Dragged Off Flight
2017-04-11
[NBCNEWS] The CEO of United Airlines apologized to customers on Monday following an incident on an overbooked flight where video appeared to show an elderly man being dragged from his seat and through the aisle of a plane.

Several videos posted on social media appeared to show three law enforcement officers pull a screaming man from his seat on the plane and then drag him by the arms down the aisle as shocked passengers look on. A witness told NBC News the ordeal began after the airline said the flight was overbooked and asked four customers to leave the plane and take a flight the following day.

"This is an upsetting event to all of us here at United," CEO Oscar Munoz said in a statement. "I apologize for having to re-accommodate these customers. Our team is moving with a sense of urgency to work with authorities and conduct our own detailed review of what happened."

"We are also reaching out to this passenger to talk directly to him and further address and resolve this situation," he added in the statement.

The reliably Democrat Chicago, aka The Windy City or Mobtown
... home of Al Capone, a succession of Daleys, Barak Obama, and Rahm Emmanuel,...
Police Department said in a statement Monday afternoon that around 6 p.m. on Sunday, a 69-year-old passenger "became irate" after he was asked to leave the plane.

"The passenger in question began yelling to voice his displeasure at which point Aviation Police were summoned," police said in the statement.

Police said the officers attempted to carry the man off the flight "when he fell."

"His head subsequently struck an armrest causing injuries to his face," police said, adding that the man was taken to a hospital and treated for non-life threatening injuries. An investigation into the incident was still ongoing.

Multiple attempts to reach the Department of Aviation for comment were not immediately returned.

Tyler Bridges, who posted video of the incident on Twitter, told NBC News he and his wife were on the United plane at O'Hare International Airport from Chicago to Louisville on Sunday when a flight attendant said the flight was overbooked and four people would have to leave to make room for airline employees.

Bridges said the flight attendant offered an $800 voucher for anyone who would volunteer to get off the flight and leave the following day at 3 p.m.

"Nobody moved, nobody got up," he said.

When no one volunteered, Bridges said, a gate agent told them the airline had used an algorithm to randomly select four people to get off the plane.

First, a young couple is asked to leave and, "they're not happy, but they get off. No problem," Bridges said.

Then the unidentified man in the video was asked to leave, Bridges said.

"He says he's a doctor and has to be in Louisville in the morning to see patients," he said. "He says he can't be delayed a day."
Posted by:Fred

#39  Apparently this happens all the time but usually they kick the folks before boarding so there is less of a fuss.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-04-11 23:02  

#38  Like pinging a sub you catch prying.
How bu hao! Some Chinese guy crying.
A Peking duck, winging?
A jing ju star, singing
When suddenly spotlighted flying?
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220   2017-04-11 21:04  

#37  Dr. is Asian. Big stink about it in China where UA is big. They are accusing UA of being racist...
Posted by: Nero White 3083   2017-04-11 21:02  

#36  But this flight was *not* overbooked. United needed to get 4 crewmembers to Louisville for the next morning so they kicked 4 paying customers off - including this doctor.

Why couldn't they have placed their crew on a different flight with a different airline?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2017-04-11 19:41  

#35  If you have a full price ticket, you can get on any flight if there is room, regardless of whether you have a reservation. I have done it numerous times. And you can book a seat and simply not show up without consequence.

No shows have always been a problem for airlines, and they routinely overbook based on the estimated number of no shows.
Posted by: phil_b   2017-04-11 18:24  

#34  That's a good one Deacon.

Both right, both wrong. IIUC, United and airport security are two different entities?

$800 voucher to overnight in Chicago, no way. Not even cash. Probably only bag I'd have is my carry-on, gotta get out of O'Hare (I have been there a couple times), pay for a taxi, hotel room, dinner, taxi back to O'Hare with enough time to get to terminal, check-in (hopefully I am on the passenger list), go through security, hopefully enough time to tredge a food line, get some airport priced meal, get to gate, board. So maybe three or four hundred left of the voucher for all that extra work and now messed up schedule. How much would I have earned the day I was supposed to be at work?

What kind of voucher, $800 off my next flight from a company that just booted me from a seat I had reserved and made plans around that reservation? Come'on.

No volunteers for that? Shocking. $1000 cash and I get a first class seat.

None of this stuff really changes my opinion on anything, and unruly passengers are on my top 5 things I hate....but the memes going around are killing me.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2017-04-11 18:08  

#33  Explain to me any other business that sells something they don't have without getting charged with fraud? You pay for a ticket (usually with small print that says non-refundable) a contract is made. If you miss the flight or blow it off, the seat is already paid for whether filled or not. The practice of overbooking is an old scheme made 'legal' by airline lobbyists and Congresscritters who look the other way to the practice that would not be tolerated in nearly every other business.

Excellent point !
Posted by: Procopius2k   2017-04-11 17:33  

#32  United spokesman Jonathan Guerin said Tuesday that all 70 seats on United Express Flight 3411 were filled, but the plane was not overbooked as the airline previously reported. Instead, United and regional affiliate Republic Airlines, which operated the flight, selected four passengers to be removed to accommodate crew members needed in Louisville the next day.
Posted by: Crusader   2017-04-11 17:31  

#31  I'm actually afraid to fly commercial but I try to at least once a year to catch up on my drinking and praying.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2017-04-11 16:11  

#30  Perhaps down today but Fortune was reporting the stock soaring yesterday despite the incident. CNBC also reported that but their links now go to a report about the stocks falling as PR catches up.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-04-11 14:29  

#29  Stocks down $1.4 Billion.
Posted by: Thomoth Smith2015   2017-04-11 14:08  

#28  I am not seeing UAL stock going up. It started at 70.15, dipped to 68.36 maybe around 11 AM, turned up to nearly match its open 69.54, seems to be trending down now. Market seems to be signaling a loss of ~2.5% of its cap, so $550M out of $22.08B. Expensive seat change.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2017-04-11 13:45  

#27  United Airlines sux so bad I don't understand how they're still in business.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2017-04-11 13:30  

#26  For some reason United Stock went up yesterday?

Weird thought came to me. What if the feds found out a terrorist had boarded, this would be a nice way to remove them without freaking out all the other passengers.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-04-11 13:23  

#25  Who woulda' thought Chinese Takeout would turn into such a problem?
Posted by Harcourt

That is so funny!
Posted by: jvalentour   2017-04-11 13:06  

#24  A public relations disaster that could have been averted. Corporate stupidity. It will cost UA a bundle in lost ridership. Despite that airlines can legally remove a passenger from the plane, I've got a feeling there is a legion of attorneys salivating to take on this case.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-04-11 11:32  

#23  Police are now serving computers!
Posted by: Hupinetle Chavinter7433   2017-04-11 11:13  

#22  Go to your room.
Posted by: Pappy   2017-04-11 10:52  

#21  But, of course: StarTrek actor John Cho blames Trump for United’s forced removal of passenger

Who woulda' thought Chinese Takeout would turn into such a problem?
Posted by: Harcourt Juth4746   2017-04-11 10:46  

#20  I'm ashamed of Rantburg for supporting this lawbreaker.

I'm ashamed that anyone thinks its ok to boot a paying customer that has already been seated merely because an EMPLOYEE wishes to take that seat at the last minute. Fuck UA for being so foolish.
Posted by: Crusader   2017-04-11 10:32  

#19  I think Harcourt is right. When the airline crew tells you to leave the plane you must do so. It does not matter if their reason is justified. I suspect United acted legally but stupidly - it wouldn't be the first time.
That said, I can easily understand the doctor - and everybody else - not wanting to be stuck in Chicago...
Posted by: Glenmore   2017-04-11 10:21  

#18  It's simple. Overbook, fine 10K per. Not cost effective to do anymore. You think your K streets reps in Congress will back that? I have a bridge in San Francisco to sell you.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2017-04-11 10:03  

#17  ^^^^UAL troll
Posted by: chris   2017-04-11 09:43  

#16  There is more. They did the normal overbooked weeding at the gate, and boarded the remainder. All good so far.
THEN UA found they had to move four of their own (UA) personnel, and decided to offer the typical monetary reward for volunteers. No volunteers; too low a bid on UA's part. Then it became a "fuck em, drag their asses off" thing. Three went grudgingly, one didn't want to volun-selected. The rest of the story we've heard. The ethnic chinese Dr. (I don't know if he was a real doctor) appeared to be in shock when he re-boarded, bloodied, muttering about them trying to kill them. No info on that. So what is unsaid is they got a fifth person to volun-select? If the doc re-boarded, a seat had to be open. (Then they had to un-board to clean up the blood? What?) I am made of questions here.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2017-04-11 09:43  

#15  Trespassing plus failing to obey commands of a crew member. It's an open and shut case.

I'm ashamed of Rantburg for supporting this lawbreaker.
Posted by: Harcourt Angoluting9366   2017-04-11 09:24  

#14  What moron let the to be bumped passengers board? Don't you have to be assigned a seat? They don't have an algorithm to keep two people from being assigned the same seat? Me think there is more to this.
Posted by: Crusoling Turkeyneck1852   2017-04-11 08:56  

#13  But, as I told the Missus last night while she glared at me through jaundiced eye "What is, is, and United will weather the storm."

...and the inevitable legal action and monetary awards to the removed passenger will be picked up by future UAL customers. Never mind the inconvenience suffered by the passengers permitted to stay aboard the flight.

Peanuts or crackers? Peanuts, crackers?
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-04-11 08:56  

#12  Three issues:
1. Yes, any airline can remove a paying customer if they deem it appropriate. Read the fine print on your ticket. It is my understanding that 40,000 paying customers were undramatically "bumped" last year.
2. The Gendarme may be at fault for physically injuring the person said to be a Doctor, but there may be some blame to go around here. Btw, would my Doctor act in a manner like the one deplaned? If so, I'd be thinking about changing Doctors.
3. The PD Supervisor via UAL personnel may not have accurately conveyed the situation to the cop on site. If the copper only knew "disruptive person on an airplane," well, that may have needlessly got some adrenaline going.

But, as I told the Missus last night while she glared at me through jaundiced eye "What is, is, and United will weather the storm."
Posted by: Harcourt Juth4746   2017-04-11 08:49  

#11  Reason #453 that I don't fly United.
Posted by: DarthVader   2017-04-11 08:35  

#10  As long as they're jamming them into the sardine cans, they could care less about it. Just remember you and I bailed them all out after the grounding on 9/11. Just another form of entitlement.

The old CAB rules on the books had the requirement that if you have one of the old fashion paper tickets (not your modern print out), the airline had to get you on the next available flight to your destination regardless of carrier.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2017-04-11 08:25  

#9  And you now know why I opted for retirement.

But WAIT there's more! Even before airline passenger boarding, there is NOTHING any more disgusting than being herded by Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson Airport, attitude ridden, Federal Job Corps TSA chimps. NOTHING !
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-04-11 08:05  

#8  And you now know why I opted for retirement.

I do not ever miss my weekly trips to and from airports.
Posted by: AlanC   2017-04-11 07:51  

#7  Don't forget Deadeye - they also forcibly removed the PAYING CUSTOMER to make room for UNITED EMPLOYEES.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2017-04-11 07:49  

#6  Good thing the guy wasn't wearing leggings.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-04-11 07:34  

#5  Aviation Police?
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-04-11 07:15  

#4  The overbooking is whose fault? The Airlines CAUSED the problem. And then the airline arbitrarily drags a CUSTOMER off the flight by force and injures him in the process?

THE AIRLINE IS AT FAULT.
STUPID way to do business.

Don't book a flight on that airline. Just don't do business with them in future... take another airline. Remember them. Spend your money somewhere else. See how stupid they stay.

Remember them anyway.
Posted by: Deadeye Bourbon1820   2017-04-11 05:31  

#3  The solution is obvious. Keep increasing the money offered to get off the flight. Everyone has their price.
Posted by: phil_b   2017-04-11 01:03  

#2  And what if the Doctor's patients had died because he wasn't there to treat them?

Perhaps United Airlines thinks it can refund their lives to them...
Posted by: CrazyFool   2017-04-11 00:57  

#1  The total arrogance of this industry highlighted once again. They've treated people like cattle for decades. Perhaps this incident will finally bring about some change.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-04-11 00:24  

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