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| The military kills 8,500 pigs and goats every year for medical training. A new bill would end that |
| 2017-03-10 |
| [WASHINGTONEXAMINER] A bipartisan group of politicians is trying to stop the Defense Department from killing about 8,500 goats and pigs a year in medical training exercises designed to prepare troops for combat. Obviously we want to have more politicians teaching in our military medical courses. Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., and Rep. Tom Marino, R-Pa., introduced a bill on Tuesday that would require the military to use only "human-based methods" to train service members to treat injuries sustained on the battlefield and end the use of "live tissue training," in which troops stab or shoot pigs and goats to simulate the treatment of combat trauma, by Oct. 1, 2020. My personal opinion is that if you've never seen blood you're not entitled to an opinion on bandaids. Johnson told the Washington Examiner he intends to raise the issue during debate on the fiscal 2018 National Defense Authorization Act and hopes to use the must-pass bill as a vehicle to ban live-tissue training. He said simulators offer better combat training than live animals, are more humane and are ultimately more cost-effective. If you've ever had a CPR course and then a few months or years later administered CPR you know it's not the same. If you haven't, you're still eligible to become a politician. "It may cost more for a simulator than for a live animal in terms of initial outlay, but you can only use that animal once, you can use the simulator repeatedly. So over the course of time, it's better," he said. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #17 Sausage making in Italy. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2017-03-10 13:35 |
| #16 7 RC. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2017-03-10 11:19 |
| #15 As soon as we have enough PETA members volunteering to be shot / lacerated / etc. then fine, let's do it. Or are they all expats in Canada now? |
| Posted by: magpie 2017-03-10 10:45 |
| #14 Ever read "The Reluctant King", AlanC? Every 20 years this kingdom selects a new king -- whoever catches the head of the previous king. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2017-03-10 09:55 |
| #13 Well, I'm sure we can find suitable human replacements. Let's start with politicians; implement this as term limits. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2017-03-10 09:25 |
| #12 Same dust up years ago using dogs for Special Forces Medic (Dog Lab) training at Fort Bragg many years ago. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2017-03-10 08:23 |
| #11 Speaking from personal experience, no simulator can compare to actually working on live tissue. These 2 pols are morons - this training has saved lives. What is the cost of that??? |
| Posted by: Bangkok Billy 2017-03-10 08:16 |
| #10 My personal opinion is that if you've never seen blood you're not entitled to an opinion on bandaids. It's not just the blood. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2017-03-10 08:01 |
| #9 Or possibly feral yoots? |
| Posted by: Bobby 2017-03-10 07:31 |
| #8 Maybe they could use feral hogs. There are too many of them, right? |
| Posted by: Bobby 2017-03-10 07:30 |
| #7 It's yummy dude. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2017-03-10 07:10 |
| #6 Americans eat goat, Skid? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2017-03-10 02:57 |
| #5 So,...an end to unit BBQs? |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2017-03-10 02:10 |
| #4 Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga. I have no further questions. Please continue the training. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2017-03-10 02:07 |
| #3 Maybe they could kill 8500 people for medical training. I could probably think of some good candidates... |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2017-03-10 01:37 |
| #2 And a lot of turkeys don't make it through Thanksgiving. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2017-03-10 01:02 |
| #1 Hank "Guam might tip over" Johnson is a known imbecile. What's Marino's excuse? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2017-03-10 00:41 |