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Economy
Big socialist governments require open borders and massive immigration
2015-11-17
[The Express - Published: Sat, Oct 11, 2008] A controversial taxpayer-funded "job centre" opened in Mali this week is just the first step towards promoting "free movement of people in Africa and the EU".

Brussels economists claim Britain and other EU states will "need" 56 million immigrant workers between them by 2050 to make up for the "demographic decline" due to falling birth rates and rising death rates across Europe.

The report, by the EU statistical agency Eurostat, warns that vast numbers of migrants could be needed to meet the shortfall in two years if Europe is to have a hope of funding the pension and health needs of its growing elderly population.

It states: "Countries with low fertility rates could require a significant number of immigrants over the coming dec­ades if they want to maintain the existing number of people of working age.

"Having sufficient people of working age is vital for the economy and for tax revenue."

The report, by French MEP Francoise Castex, calls for immigrants to be given legal rights and access to social welfare provision such as benefits.

Ms Castex said: "It is urgent that member states have a calm approach to immigration. To say 'yes', we need immigration ... it €‚is not a new development, we must accept it."€‚
Appears to be long in the making and entirely self-inflicted. The current unrest is likely viewed by the ruling establishment as little more than growing pains.
Posted by:Besoeker

#12  In an era when people confuse facts with opinions, and even most scholarship is sloppy, Bat Ye'or's exposure and indictment of one of the more ominous aspects of the "European project" is damning. The Islamization of Europe did not happen by accident, developing mainly through shady back-channel deals with Arab governments. But those deals are enshrined in opaque language in obscure agreements that are accessible to the determined scholar. The combination of outrage and patience it took to research and write Eurabia is very impressive.

As for my students, well, there's only so much damage you can undo in 4 weeks. I think the more strident Europhiles at least walked away feeling less certain that Europe's future would be all gum drops and puppy dogs and rainbows.
Posted by: RandomJD   2015-11-17 20:09  

#11  *sigh* Apologies for screwing up the HTML. I must be more tired than I realized. Trying again:

... her Wikipedia page here
Posted by: trailing wife   2015-11-17 19:37  

#10  Oh my, RandomJD. 'Tis truthfully said the best teachers are not falsely kind. And you once described lawyers as being like wolf cubs, biting and snapping hard at one another without malice.

One hopes your students took home that lesson as well as the other.
Posted by: trailing wife   2015-11-17 19:33  

#9  Bat Ye'or rocks. Eurabia is painstakingly documented, more footnotes than text. I assigned it as reading in a seminar on the EU I taught several years ago, and challenged my libtard students to present evidence that her thesis is wrong.

Crickets
Posted by: RandomJD   2015-11-17 19:15  

#8  Golly. It sounds like Bat Ye'or was right about Eurabia. (See her Wikipedia page < a href=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Ye%27or>here)
Posted by: trailing wife   2015-11-17 15:59  

#7  Totally unacceptable.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2015-11-17 13:29  

#6  Blackmail.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2015-11-17 13:28  

#5  The logic only holds if you assume a large government providing lots of social programs. These are expensive and require a large tax base to support.

The leftoids think immigrants will provide this tax base, but in a democracy that's a foolish assumption. At some point large numbers of immigrants might decide that supporting aging Europeans isn't what they want to do with their spare cash.
Posted by: Iblis   2015-11-17 11:32  

#4  what have the governments frittered away the taxes on? Those people paid tax while they worked. It should have been saved and invested for pensions.

If you try to prop up the elderly with immigrants all you get is a ponzi scheme + social unrest

and you need to build expensive infrastructure for all the new migrants... new hospitals, schools, roads, these things are not cheap

it is a zero-sum game, it is a stupid idea this idea of endless economic growth through immigration

old people use less resources because they are mostly happy to sit at home and watch TV then go out for the odd lawn bowls and bingo. Give them free public transport and a very low pension they will be happier than if you open the doors to millions of people who do not speak their language or share their culture
Posted by: anon1   2015-11-17 10:02  

#3  Maybe the OWG with its massive immigration and open borders is not such a great idea--A Donk vote recruiting scheme.
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-11-17 07:38  

#2  They do generate votes, though.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2015-11-17 07:24  

#1  Strange, the big socialist government required walls to keep people in 1948-1990. Those were to keep the productive agents in the harnesses. BTW, those on welfare and dependent upon government to sustain them (non-productive) don't generate much in the way of taxes.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-11-17 05:08  

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