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This Week In Guns, November 7th, 2015
2015-11-07


By Chris Covert

Rantburg.com

An informal impromptu discussion began in this column last week about gun ranges, when I mentioned about problems getting an AK-74 zeroed in at 100 and 200 yards. No conclusions, just a divergence of opinions on just what is a tough shot with a rifle over open sights.

Weapons Man has a discussion about long range shooting
concerning a club called the One Mile Club. According to the post, a shooter can qualify as a member of the One Mile Club if he can hit a target at one mile (1,750 yards), then his next shot he must hit at 100 yards, or the long distance shot and membership is disqualified.

Speaking of disqualifications, Stewart Rhodes, head of Oathkeepers is facing disbarment for a number of offenses to the court. The linked article seems dismissive of Rhodes due to his travails, but if he does get disbarred, his stock with the patriots and 2nd Amendment supporters will rise.

I hate linking to these guys because of their disgusting behavior with regard to Ammon Bundy 18 months ago, but it seems that presidential candidate Ted Cruz got a number of leftists at Gizmodo all riled up because of his muzzle discipline. He was hauling around a doubled barreled shotgun over his right shoulder, broken open, muzzle pointing forward.

That is not the best way to transport a firearm, but then everyone can see the shotgun's chamber is open and therefore empty. It is not like the guy is going to swing the shotgun into action, shove two shells into the shotgun, cock the gun, and engage a safety, thus presenting a danger to anyone.

Speaking with an acquaintance in meatspace yesterday about those issues, I always have been told that the very best, safest way to transport any long gun is strapped to the back, muzzle down, action open and chambered clear, but as long as the action is open and the chamber is clear, Cruz was transporting the firearm safely.

Despite some electoral victories this passed week, our own homegrown facsists continue to press for theft and murder of their fellow citizens, with the courts along for the ride.

There's always the militias.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition and rifle ammunition were steady.

Prices for used pistols and used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

Virginia: .308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic): $850

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Quality Made Cartridges, Store Brand, RNL, Reloads, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: op Shot Ammunition, Store Brand, RNL, Reloads, .24 per round (From Last week: -.01 each After Unchanged (9 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 250 rounds: Powder River Cartridge, Unknown brand, RNL, Brass, .20 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain, From Last Week: +.03 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Bud's Gun Shop, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .18 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammo Clearance, Leadhead brand, FMJ, Brass, Reloads, .16 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (10 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2015)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: LuckyGunner, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .30 per round (From Last Week: +.03 After Unchanged (3Q, 2015))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: 3CR Outdoor Supply, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .21 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .38 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, Steel Cased, FMJ, .36 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Wolf WPA, steel case, FMJ, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, steel case, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (1Q 2015))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds (10 Box Limit): Ammo Men, Federal Champion, RNL .08 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds (2 Box Limit): Target Sports USA, Federal Automatch, RNL, .07 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each)

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $517 Last Week Avg: $523 (-) ($616 (30 Weeks), $476 (6 Weeks))
California (236, 244): Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport: $450 ($650 (40 Weeks), $400 (9 Weeks))
Texas (293, 286): American Tactical Imports Omni Hybrid: $535 ($700 (35 Weeks), $350 (30 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (159, 163): DPMS Oracle: $500 ($700 (29 Weeks), $300 (17 Weeks))
Virginia (174, 185): Olympic Arms: $600 ($750 (35 Weeks), $500 (39 Weeks))
Florida (397, 407): Del-Ton Echo 316: $500 ($650 (19 Weeks), $380 (31 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $1,090 Last Week Avg: $1,000(+) ($1,359 (29 Weeks), $820 (5 Weeks))
California (48, 51): Mixed Build: $1,500 ($1,700 (43 Weeks), $850 (13 Weeks))
Texas (47, 46): Palmetto State Armory: $1,300 ($1,500 (49 Weeks), $800 (13 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (29, 33): DPMS: $1,300 ($1,500 (35 Weeks), $700 (6 Weeks))
Virginia (59, 56): Mixed Build: $850 ($1,650 (18 Weeks), $850 (CA: $900 (48 Weeks)))
Florida (75, 70): Rock River LAR8 Operator: $500 ($1,500 (50 Weeks), $500 (5 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $490 Last Week Avg: $490 (=) ($626 (31 Weeks), $450 (18 Weeks))
California (42, 50): Polish Radom: $600 ($700 (34 Weeks), $320 (45 Weeks))
Texas (73, 73): WASR 10: $500 ($750 (33 Weeks), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (54, 50): Romak: $300 ($750 (40 Weeks), $375 (25 Weeks))
Virginia (52, 54): CAI C-39: $550 ($625 (36 Weeks), $350 (38 Weeks))
Florida (118, 116): CAI: $500 ($650 (29 Weeks), $300 (49 Weeks))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $365 Last Week Avg: $341 (+) ($489 (37 Weeks), $296 (19 Weeks))
California (6, 6): Winchester Model 94: $450 ($500 (12 Weeks), $180 (19 Weeks))
Texas (17, 17): Mossberg: $400 ($550 (38 Weeks), $300 (43 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (20, 19): Marlin 336CS (w scope): $275 ($450 (39 Weeks), $250 (44 Weeks))
Virginia (9, 10): Winchester 94: $350 ($450 (23 Weeks), $350 (41 Weeks))
Florida (18, 19): Marlin 336: $350 ($500 (35 Weeks), $250 (21 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $386 Last Week Avg: $385 (+) ($450 (35 Weeks), $350 (8 Weeks))
California (149, 158): Rock Island Armory: $375 ($600 (37 Weeks), $300 (15 Weeks))
Texas (241, 248): Norinco: $400 ($600 (48 Weeks), $325 (11 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (146, 146): Para Ordnance: $325 ($550 (27 Weeks), $300 (21 Weeks))
Virginia (123, 118): Armscor 1911: $380 ($550 (29 Weeks), $250 (46 Weeks))
Florida (306, 330): Para Ordnance: $450 ($475 (40 Weeks), $250 (35 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $284 Last Week Avg: $286 (-) ($336 (32 Weeks), $268 (10 Weeks))
California (170, 163): Smith & Wesson SW9VE Sigma: $315 ($450 (37 Weeks), $250 (42 Weeks))
Texas (234, 253): Ruger SR9: $280 ($355 (36 Weeks), $200 (9 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (225, 212): Ruger P89DC: $250 ($350 (4Q 2014), $200 (16 Weeks))
Virginia (178, 163): Sig Sauer P250: $325 ($400 (30 Weeks), $250 (16 Weeks))
Florida (438, 439): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $250 ($375 (46 Weeks), $220 (9 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $310 Last Week Avg: $318(-) ($368 (26 Weeks), $300 (3Q, 2014))
California (87, 90): Smith & Wesson SW40VE: $350 ($425 (11 Weeks)), $250 (43 Weeks))
Texas (109, 101): Sig Sauer P250: $300 ($425 (47 Weeks), $275 (29 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (83, 88): Glock 23: $300 ($350 (18 Weeks), $250 (38 Weeks))
Virginia (71, 77): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $300 ($450 (26 Weeks), $275 (42 Weeks))
Florida (169, 162): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $300 ($400 (36 Weeks), $200 (11 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Mississippi)
Ruger Mark I Black Eagle Chambered in .22 LR

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter
Posted by:badanov

#2  IDPA is good practice too. Wear different clothes, wear different jackets. I don't do IDPA to compete, I use it for practice. My wife bought me some turkish ammo that failed about 1 in 20 rounds. Only thing I've seen fail in my XDm. But, it was good practice for a bad round, having to actually practice tap-rack-bang under some pressure. It was rather strange how quickly that became automatic too, after the initial surprise wore off, going through that drill is quick and reflex. No bang? Slap the mag, rack it and start firing again.

Another thing I found about the 3.8" XDm is that apparently there's a huge muzzle flash, but I never notice it when firing. Other IDPA people keep asking what I'm shooting but I think they forget it's a 3.8" and not the 5".
Posted by: Silentbrick   2015-11-07 23:00  

#1  So someone added to my Jetlag Appreciation Day list of to-dos - check smoke detectors, change batteries in important electrical devices such as electric safes, and now begin practicing conceal carry drills while wearing winter clothing: gloves, various coats, so forth. Not only to refresh yourself, but also if you have new clothes - coat, gloves, undershirt - or new equipment - holster, firearm accessory, new firearm - you give yourself a chance to train and adjust and train again while merely looking out of place at the range rather than finding out at the worst time in your life that your fine new gloves do not allow you to properly operate your equipment.

I'm going to take some liberty from the show The Best Defense. As always, they remind viewers that awareness is your best defense. Second to that, they reviewed defense with items other than a firearm. They talked about escalation, focusing on pepper spray. They stressed practicing your pepper spray - do research and make sure the brand will disable most attackers rather than spice up their dinner. Go and spray it. Does it mist or stream, little of both? Here is me putting words in their mouths. Spray is not bad, don't have to be as accurate, but how does it behave in x mph wind? How offset is the aim with a crosswind? At what headwind does it come back on you?

I was hoping to post something else, but regionally we have an uptick of meth. If you are unfamiliar with the beauties of said drug, I can give you my opinion. Had an employee deal with a large male so twacked out a different customer had 911 all but dialed until said head left. It put the employee in an awkward position - leave him alone and he steals anything of value. Escort the head and potentially put them self into harm's way. Guy could have put $300 of graphing calculator into waist band pretty easily and nobody would have known. The merchandise loss would be a kick in the pants, but we know that at even a quarter value is a good haul (meth is cheap) but then we get the reputation of an easy mark so the whole damn hive starts coming in. It self perpetuates.

Awareness and communication, attitude, numbers were employee's best defense. Backing that up was pepper spray and telescoping baton - and it was at that moment employee realized she didn't know if she could properly deploy the pepper spray, because toe to toe would have been a loser even with the baton.

Practice folks. Practice.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2015-11-07 18:35  

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