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Saudi may go broke before the US oil industry buckles, fracking destroys the Saudi patronage slush fund
2015-08-09
excellent story from SMH via the Telegraph, London - more at link
If the oil futures market is correct, Saudi Arabia will start running into trouble within two years. It will be in existential crisis by the end of the decade.
The contract price of US crude oil for delivery in December 2020 is currently $US62.05, implying a drastic change in the economic landscape for the Middle East and the petro-rentier states.

The Saudis took a huge gamble last November when they stopped supporting prices and opted instead to flood the market and drive out rivals, boosting their own output to 10.6 million barrels a day (b/d) into the teeth of the downturn.

Bank of America says OPEC is now "effectively dissolved". The cartel might as well shut down its offices in Vienna to save money.

Once oil climbs back to $US60 or even $US55 - since the threshold keeps falling - they (oil shale frackers) will crank up production almost instantly.

OPEC now faces a permanent headwind. Each rise in price will be capped by a surge in US output. The only constraint is the scale of US reserves that can be extracted at mid-cost, and these may be bigger than originally supposed, not to mention the parallel possibilities in Argentina and Australia, or the possibility for "clean fracking" in China as plasma pulse technology cuts water needs.

The Saudi royal family is leading the Sunni cause against a resurgent Iran, battling for dominance in a bitter struggle between Sunni and Shia across the Middle East. "Right now, the Saudis have only one thing on their mind and that is the Iranians. They have a very serious problem. Iranian proxies are running Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon," said Jim Woolsey, the former head of the US Central Intelligence Agency.
they have also been spending billions exporting theocratic sunni islamism and sharia
Money began to leak out of Saudi Arabia after the Arab Spring, with net capital outflows reaching 8 per cent of GDP annually even before the oil price crash. The country has since been burning through its foreign reserves at a vertiginous pace.

The reserves peaked at $US737 billion in August of 2014. They dropped to $US672 billion in May. At current prices they are falling by at least $US12 billion a month.
perhaps this is why they are setting up halal certification bodies to establish local funding streams on your groceries for when the funds dry up for proselytising in the west
In hindsight, it was a strategic error to hold prices so high, for so long, allowing shale frackers - and the solar industry - to come of age. The genie cannot be put back in the bottle.
in hindsight it was a mistake not to introduce secularism and to eradicate sharia
The Saudis are now trapped. Even if they could do a deal with Russia and orchestrate a cut in output to boost prices - far from clear - they might merely gain a few more years of high income at the cost of bringing forward more shale production later on.

Yet on the current course their reserves may be down to $US200 billion by the end of 2018. The markets will react long before this, seeing the writing on the wall. Capital flight will accelerate.
however the saudis had 50 years of rolled gold to invest and they have bought up our major companies - 49% newsltd, harrods etc etc
The government can slash investment spending for a while - as it did in the mid-1980s - but in the end it must face draconian austerity. It cannot afford to prop up Egypt and maintain an exorbitant political patronage machine across the Sunni world.

Social spending is the glue that holds together a medieval Wahhabi regime at a time of fermenting unrest among the Shia minority of the Eastern Province, pin-prick terrorist attacks from ISIS, and blowback from the invasion of Yemen.

Diplomatic spending is what underpins the Saudi sphere of influence caught in a Middle East version of Europe's Thirty Year War, and still reeling from the after-shocks of a crushed democratic revolt.
democratic revolt? the "oppressed populus" wants theocracy not democracy. they want sharia
Posted by:anon1

#20  and nobody to bitch about spills...
Posted by: Frank G on the road   2015-08-09 20:37  

#19  I am surprised no mentions of the soon-to-be nuclear power Iran, and of the possible response from filthy rich Saudi Arabia.

Irrelevant except as a transient event. Drilling through the thin glowing layer of trinitite that will soon cover vast swaths of the Middle East is no problem.
Posted by: Halliburton - Foreign Affairs Division   2015-08-09 19:55  

#18  Time to buy a Doomstead a cow, 1 KW of solar panels, 10 years of MREs for the cow and a good blanket to hide under.
Posted by: Shipman   2015-08-09 17:24  

#17  I am surprised no mentions of the soon-to-be nuclear power Iran, and of the possible response from filthy rich Saudi Arabia. In your future considerations, throw in 2 more nuclear powers with no real future worth having, a couple of nukes on an oil shipping dock or the Strait of Hormuz, then the possibility of SA going broke won't matter one little bit.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2015-08-09 16:11  

#16  question for the 'Burg: what do we do if Saudi implodes leaving a large number of newly poor unskilled men with a massive sense of entitlement and full of resentment?

Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo)   2015-08-09 13:52  

#15  Calling oil over $85 by 2017

Oh, it most certainly will go up by then, though I wouldn't put a specific dollar value on it.
Posted by: Pappy   2015-08-09 12:58  

#14  
Posted by:    2015-08-09 11:54  

#13  Calling oil over $85 by 2017.

Even higher than that if the Fed keeps 'creating' money and the Treasury keeps printing it without any real backing. See - Venezuela
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-08-09 11:14  

#12  "Don't spit food out---think of all the starving children in Saudia."
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-08-09 11:12  

#11  Kill them as they emerge, blinking in the sunlight, from their lair?

More seriously, without the funds for foreign educations and adventures, surely they'll be more of a plague in the region than firther afield.
Posted by trailing wife


Made for teevee trailer available? History Channel? Don't be a TEASE !
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-08-09 11:10  

#10  The actual house of Saud will do ok. They have billions stashed in Swiss bank accounts. They will escape to London, the US, and wherever they can.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2015-08-09 10:52  

#9  Idiots we can all get rich. Oil isn't a zero sum pie, there will be cash for oil and all. Calling oil over $85 by 2017.

(That should be just long enough if I am wrong)
Posted by: Shipman   2015-08-09 10:51  

#8  The House of Saud may go broke, or not. As I recall, they own a substantial stake in western oil companies.
There's stall a lot of bleeding to be done before the end.
Posted by: ed in texas   2015-08-09 10:37  

#7  Question for the Burg: This not related to the specific post, but your insight is appreciated. We have the State Dept. and who knows how many other govt. agencies infested with M.B. agents via the lead of Huma W. Then we have the ValJer effect of Iranian influence in the admin. Now, nominally those organizations are at cross purposes to each other, and sometimes they unite for common goals.
What does the community think about this US infection?
Posted by: Zebulon Sforza9322   2015-08-09 09:26  

#6  what do we do if Saudi Latin America implodes leaving a large number of newly poor unskilled men with a massive sense of entitlement and full of resentment

I believe its called California or El Norte in general.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-08-09 08:59  

#5  OH the pain. We must offer whatever assistance we can provide. Extend Obamacare to them and welfare programs. Allow them to vote in our elections. Well, after all its our fault. Our evil fracking industry has caused this to happen anyway. Encourage immigration so they will have an able labor force to do the manual things that are required. Who pays for this? now don't forget Obama's stash.
Posted by: Dale   2015-08-09 08:57  

#4  ahh, TW, a woman after my own heart ;)

Seriously though i was just watching Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss on YouTube

They are trying to get the atheist debates and science talks translated into arabic, urdu and persian

This could really help - especially the Christopher Hitchens vs Tariq Ramadan debate on "is Islam a religion of peace" - these debates would really open up the minds of a lot of Islamists never exposed to any thought outside what they've been brainwashed

And they've all got satellite dishes and YouTUbe access

plus some translations the other way can help = Lawrence Krauss is writing the foreword to Raif Badawi's book which is being translated to english. Raif Badawi is the Saudi blogger who is being flogged for blasphemy
Posted by: anon1   2015-08-09 08:41  

#3  question for the 'Burg: what do we do if Saudi implodes leaving a large number of newly poor unskilled men with a massive sense of entitlement and full of resentment

Kill them as they emerge, blinking in the sunlight, from their lair?

More seriously, without the funds for foreign educations and adventures, surely they'll be more of a plague in the region than firther afield.
Posted by: trailing wife   2015-08-09 08:28  

#2  question for the 'Burg: what do we do if Saudi implodes leaving a large number of newly poor unskilled men with a massive sense of entitlement and full of resentment

these people are going to be a massive problem in the future

and there will be refugees as well, economic migrants, with the worst mind set imaginable
Posted by: anon1   2015-08-09 08:20  

#1  best story i read for ages. sharia is one of the great evils of the world today. it is spread by saudi money.

IS will topple them and then we are going to have the war we have been deferring since 9/11
Posted by: anon1   2015-08-09 05:28  

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