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Warsi: Cameron wrong to target British Muslims over radicalisation
2015-06-20
[THEGUARDIAN] David Cameron
... has stated that he is certainly a big Thatcher fan, but I don't know whether that makes me a Thatcherite, which means he's not. Since he is not deeply ideological he lacks core principles and is easily led. He has been described as certainly not a Pitt, Elder or Younger, but he does wear a nice suit so maybe he's Beau Brummel ...
is at risk of demoralising British Moslems with his "misguided emphasis" on saying that some people in the community are quietly condoning Islamist extremism, according to a former cabinet colleague and Conservative party co-chair.
They're still arguing over that "some Moslems" circumlocution. Try "takfiris." That's the preferred term among the Medes and the Persians and it looks about accurate to me. I'd go with "salafists" myself, but they couldn't get away with that since that's the official Saudi line. "Sunnis" is too broad, as actually is "Moslems," even though I've long since reached the point where I don't like them generically. ("Don't like" != "Hate.")
Writing in the Guardian, Lady Warsi said the prime minister may have further alienated Moslems with a speech about tackling radicalisation, which he made on Friday.
That still leaves cultural clashes to be dealt with. Western nations have less in common with the Islamic world than we do with the Chinese.
She warned that Cameron and ministers lacked the credibility to demand that British Moslems do more to weed out extremism when the government was itself failing to adequately champion and support them -- although she said she did support the prime minister's anti-extremist intention.
How about a "kill all takfiris," Baroness?
Criticising Cameron's heavy focus on "Moslem community complicity", Warsi wrote:"My concern is that this call to Moslems to do more, without an understanding of what they already do now, will demoralise the very people who will continue to lead this fight. As one prominent female Moslem activist told me: 'This speech has undermined what I've been doing.'
... and then you could say something like "and keep yer goddamned hands off British women unless they want you to touch them!"
"David Cameron is right that there are 'some' -- a minority within a minority within a minority -- who condone the Isis view of the world, but there are many, many, many more of this minority who are fighting a very real and sustained battle, the same battle he is fighting. They know they have to do more, they are willing to do more but they will do it a lot better knowing we are on the same side.
... and then she could say something like "And don't lop off your daughters' outer genitalia."
"The government needs to champion them, support them. Only then will it have the credibility to demand that communities themselves do more."
Y'see, government's function is to look out for a groups within the borders, not just to cater to Moslems. Show us a Moslem country where the government goes out of its way to protect the rights, let alone the finer sensibilities, of its Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, and animist minorities and then we'll all agree to use kid gloves.But first find just that one Moslem country.
Warsi said Cameron's own advisers should have been aware of how the intervention "with its misguided emphasis and call to action, would at best fall on deaf ears, at worst further alienate".
Takfir wal hijra.
The outspoken intervention came after Cameron told a global security summit in Slovakia that the growing threat posed by Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems....
could only be defeated if Moslem communities and internet service providers stopped giving any credence to an Islamic murderous Moslem ideology that claims the west is evil, democracy is wrong and women are inferior.

In one passage that was briefed to newspapers overnight, he said: "A troubled boy who is angry at the world, or a girl [who is] looking for an identity, for something to believe in, and there's something that is quietly condoned online or perhaps even in parts of your local community, then it's less of a leap to go from a British teenager to an Isil [Isis] fighter or an Isil wife than it would be for someone who hasn't been exposed to these things."
Posted by:Fred

#3  demoralising British Moslems

I dunno seems like a worthy goal to me.
Posted by: AlanC   2015-06-20 08:54  

#2  "As one prominent female Moslem activist told me: 'This speech has undermined what I've been doing.'"

By calling Cameron's effort out you can tell this is a leftwing worthless lump all cozied up in her seat on the Tony Blair gravy train.

Even if Cameron were counter productive it's no less than this statement, from a muslim woman, thinking her voice holds influence in a patriarchal society.
Posted by: Teapot   2015-06-20 04:11  

#1  I agree. Shouldn't target them verbally. HMG are lots more effective in inducing peaceful thoughts in Muslim minds.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-06-20 02:47  

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