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| Report: U.S. Raid on IS Produced Wealth of Intelligence | |
| 2015-06-10 | |
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allaharound with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not reallyMoslems.... group produced a wealth of information about the jihadists' finances and leadership, the New York Times ...which still proudly displays Walter Duranty's Pulitzer prize... reported Tuesday, citing U.S. officials. Material seized in the May 16 raid against Abu Sayyaf ...also known as al-Harakat al-Islamiyya, an Islamist terror group based in Jolo, Basilan and Zamboanga. Since its inception in the early 1990s, the group has carried out bombings, kidnappings, murders, head choppings, and extortion in their uniquely Islamic attempt to set up an independent Moslem province in the Philippines. Abu Sayyaf forces probably number less than 300 cadres. The group is closely allied with remnants of Indonesia's Jemaah Islamiya and has loose ties with MILF and MNLF who sometimes provide cannon fodder... , believed to be the group's top financier, already helped U.S. forces track down and bomb another IS leader in eastern Syria on May 31, unnamed officials told the Times. U.S. government officials believe an influential lieutenant, Abu Hamid, was killed in that air strike, the Times reported, but the IS group has not yet confirmed his death. An estimated four to seven terabytes of data was extracted from laptops, cell phones and other items recovered in the operation, the newspaper said. The information included insights into how the group's leader, His Supreme Immensity, Caliph of the Faithful and Galactic Overlord, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ...formerly merely the head of ISIL and a veteran of the Bagram jailhouse. Looks like a new messiah to bajillions of Moslems, like just another dead-eyed mass murder to the rest of us... , seeks to avoid being monitored by U.S.-led coalition forces. When the IS chief meets regional leaders at his headquarters in Raqqa, each Death Eater has to hand over their mobile phone to a driver to avoid revealing their location to Western spy services, the paper wrote. "I'll just say from that raid we're learning quite a bit that we did not know before," a senior State Department official told news hounds in a teleconference last week. U.S. intelligence agencies declined to comment on the report. At least one informer "deep inside" the IS group played a pivotal role in tracking Abu Sayyaf before the raid, a military official told the Times. U.S. officials believe Abu Sayyaf was involved in kidnapping activities and oversaw oil smuggling and financing for the group. Material found in the raid showed that about half of the IS group's oil profits is allocated to a "general operating budget" while the remainder is divided between maintaining oil production facilities and paying workers, officials told the Times. The workers are fully paid employees for the IS group and not conscripted locals as previously believed, officials said. The U.S. presidential envoy to the coalition fighting the IS group, retired U.S. general John Allen, said in Qatar ...an emirate on the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula. It sits on some really productive gas and oil deposits, which produces the highest per capita income in the world. They piss it all away on religion, financing the Moslem Brotherhood and several al-Qaeda affiliates... last week that the raid uncovered "substantial information on Daesh (IS) financial operations." The new information gathered indicated that one figure, Fadel al-Hayali, also known as Abu Mutaz, may wield more power in the IS organization than previously suspected, according to the paper. U.S. Army Delta commandos detained Sayyaf's wife in the raid but were not able to capture Abu Sayyaf alive as planned. | |
| Posted by:trailing wife |
| #12 shhhh... we want to keep "Abhdul" and his ring secret, K? His foreign sources say keep on the downlow |
| Posted by: Frank G 2015-06-10 20:43 |
| #11 At least one informer "deep inside" the IS group played a pivotal role in tracking Abu Sayyaf before the raid, a military official told the Times. It would be interesting if this were disinformation so the ISIS inner circle gets paranoid enough to start rubbing each other out to try to get rid of the snitch. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2015-06-10 19:08 |
| #10 Yes, when I think of what those fellows went through, I don't even want to discuss my own mediocre, lackluster, swivel chair record. Little wonder they didn't want to talk of it. Very humbling. Very humbling indeed. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2015-06-10 13:38 |
| #9 Beso, let me add Saipan and Tinian to your list. Didn't get a word out of pop until I got him a little drunk 30 years after the fact. Seabees saw some gnarley shit back then too. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2015-06-10 13:30 |
| #8 I understand they sort of put the pilots that flew the mission into some kind of banishment to keep them from deliberately or inadvertently leaking key info about the Yamamoto shoot down. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet al-Doomi 2015-06-10 09:33 |
| #7 You should read up on the trials and tribulations the 'command' went through deciding whether or not putting the hit on Yamamoto was worth it if it might lead the Japanese to conclude their key military code had been broken. Info on that intel coup didn't 'leak out' till after the war. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2015-06-10 08:52 |
| #6 Woofing kills or captures, and publicizing information about how much intelligence data is harvested is not only stupid, but detrimental to ongoing and future operations. Case in point; I remember years ago when it was somehow revealed that the U.S. was monitoring UBL's hand-held communications traffic. He immediately changed his TTP and began using messengers or other means of communications. Of course the UBL coms leak was minor compared to the actual take-down, movies, books, political bloviating and posturing. When I was a kid, shooting marbles on the playground: "Yea, pops was at Iwo, [D-Day, or the Bulge], but he never talks about it." I miss those brave men. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2015-06-10 05:32 |
| #5 " estimated four to seven terabytes of data was extracted " Totally meaningless. you need a lot of work to turn that into information, and vastly more to get some knowledge out of it. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2015-06-10 05:18 |
| #4 "Dude, did you hear? We totally broke the Nip naval codes AND the Kraut Enigma machines. Do we rock or what!" I'm boggled. We seriously need to STFU about this stuff. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2015-06-10 01:29 |
| #3 That would require intellect, SPOD. Not to mention an actual desire to win. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2015-06-10 00:33 |
| #2 That would require intellect, SPOD. |
| Posted by: Raj 2015-06-10 00:23 |
| #1 Why in the hell can't the administration keep a lid on this information so we can keep the bad guys guessing. Amazing desire to trumpet short term achievements at the expense of long term goals. I personally would have rubbed out OBL and not announced it for two years so we could take his info and play AQ like a bongo with phony OBL instructions. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2015-06-10 00:18 |