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Klingon Director: Islamic State Is €˜Psychopathic,' Not Islamic
2015-03-16
[Breitbart] CIA Director John Brennan refused to refer to the Islamic State (ISIS) terror group as an "Islamic" terrorist organization in a Friday speech at the Council on Foreign Relations, repeating White House rhetoric.
Identifies the disease, then joins the patient group in categoric denial. Very interesting.
The CIA Director assured the audience at the Council on Foreign Relations that ISIS represents an ideology that's "inconsistent" with Islam.

A CBS reporter asked Brennan why the administration has been so "reluctant" to identify Islamic extremism as the root ideology of jihadist groups in the Muslim-majority world.

"The people who carry out acts of terrorism, whether it be Al Qaeda, [ISIL], are doing it because they believe it is consistent with what their view of Islam is," said the CIA Director. "It is totally inconsistent with what the overwhelming majority of Muslims throughout the world."

"By ascribing it as a Muslim terrorism or Islamic extremism -- I think it does really give them the type of Islamic legitimacy that they are so desperately seeking, but which they don't deserve at all," Brennan added. "They are terrorists, they're criminals. Many of them are psychopathic thugs, murderers, who use a religious concept and masquerade, mask themselves, in that religious construct.
Posted by:Besoeker

#14  I'd say he's being a bit too charitable.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-03-16 21:12  

#13  Soooo OS, tell us how you really feel.
Posted by: illeagle   2015-03-16 21:00  

#12  Director Brennan, from an old spook, let me just say you make a shitty analyst. You have to be truthful and call things what they are. ISIS quotes the Q'uran, they adopt and hold to Sharia, and they believe themselves to be the purest of the Islamic groups out there. That makes them Islamic no matter what label YOU want to impose on them for your political purposes. You must deal with reality, not playing games with semantics. Otherwise your product (the intelligence you are supposed to be producing) is not based in the reality of the situation, and will be wrong - and will hurt the country and get ops people killed for no reason at all. You tell the truth even if its not what they want to hear, even if its not politically correct. I've had to tell flag officers (including those with multiple stars) stuff they didn't want to hear, but it was my duty to do so, despite the risk of personal career damage. Its the duty you acquire when you take that oath. Put on your big girl panties and face up to reality and your responsibility to the nation. So what if the President doesnt like what he hears? Fuck him, the truth is the truth, and as CINC he needs to hear it. Hold him accountable.

So Director Breannan, and those who think like you, here's my very personal and heart-felt FUCK YOU to you, from an old Cold Warrior. We won our war and did so with minimal loss, and we even won the follow-ons in the Gulf and Balkans - unlike you you dickless bitches who will not even give one bit of thought to what we say because we are politically incorrect.

I hope I live long enough to help pick up the pieces of the wreck you are creating for our nation. And if we both live that long to see the disaster and the recovery, I'll be one of the ones laughing at your corpse while it swings from a gibbet after your summary trial and execution for treason.
Posted by: OldSpook   2015-03-16 20:05  

#11  "Many of them are psychopathic thugs, murderers, who use a religious concept and masquerade, mask themselves, in that religious construct."

Psychopathic thuggery masking itself in a religious construct is an apt description of the political consensus of the OIC as well as the contemporary political reality in important member states.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2015-03-16 18:52  

#10  I guess he is saying referring to them as islamic is like referring to him as head of Intelligence.
Posted by: chris   2015-03-16 17:28  

#9  If basic assumptions are wrong---one cannot arrive at right conclusions (GIGO).
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-03-16 14:03  

#8  Error in reasoning, common fallacy: False dichotomy.
Posted by: OldSpook   2015-03-16 13:26  

#7  Maybe in addition to gainful employment we need to provide all disaffected Muslim youts with insurance that includes mental health coverage. A Radicalization rider if you will?
Posted by: DepotGuy   2015-03-16 13:22  

#6  Do you mean CIA Director John Brennan who has been accused of converting to islam while assigned in Saudi Arabia?
Posted by: Clonter Thruling4064   2015-03-16 12:15  

#5  So, they're fundamentalists as in following in the footsteps.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-03-16 12:03  

#4  They are Islamic as well as psychopathic
The only real argument is whether that statement is redundant or not.
Posted by: Glenmore   2015-03-16 11:46  

#3  "They are terrorists, they're criminals. Many of them are psychopathic thugs, murderers, who use a religious concept and masquerade, mask themselves, in that religious construct."

And who's financing them?
Posted by: Pappy   2015-03-16 11:38  

#2  They are Islamic as well as psychopathic.
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-03-16 11:31  

#1  here you have it folks, the root of the problem.

until the "intelligence" community realises that it is a losing strategy not to come clean and name the enemy then we will continue to lose and lose big domestically.

They need to ally with secular Muslims - YES but they need to also name and isolate the totalitarian political doctrine of fascist Islamism.

Explain at every opportunity that the two are different and that secular Muslims are our allies against the fascists. And importantly: ban Sharia.

Failure to do so has led to:
- the rise of homegrown fascist Islamism
- the rise of Sharia in the US, Australia and the UK
- the rule of secular law undermined in favour of giving spy agencies super powers without judicial oversight (this was billed as protection against islamofascism but had nothing to do with it)
- free speech destroyed

This is all the evil wrought domestically because the intelligence agencies cannot see the value in naming the enemy as fascist Islamism.

They have bought the idea that if they do this they will alienate secular Muslims, and/or create violent hate against them in the multicultural "paradise" they've created through indiscriminate mass immigration

This is wrong

Failure to name and recognise the enemy is leading to the fifth column threatening us within our own borders.

elected Governments do what the intelligence community tell them on this issue

so the change of strategy has to come from within the intelligence community

stop being so afraid to call a spade a spade

you need to do it. Ban sharia.
Posted by: anon1   2015-03-16 10:29  

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