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NASA rocket explodes on launch |
2014-10-29 |
[Al Ahram] An unmanned Antares rocket exploded seconds after lift off from a commercial launch pad in Virginia on Tuesday, a NASA TV broadcast showed. |
Posted by:Fred |
#30 ![]() |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 22:47 |
#29 We all know it's Obama's fault. He acted stupidly. He needs to sit down and have a beer with Putin and these problems will be solved. Though I'd um...check the beer for polonium. |
Posted by: Silentbrick 2014-10-29 19:16 |
#28 Buy from SpaceX, they're made in _this_ country. |
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2014-10-29 18:18 |
#27 |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 17:08 |
#26 News Release Issued: Oct 29, 2014 (11:57am EDT) ATK Statement Regarding Orbital's Antares Launch Failure ARLINGTON, Va., Oct. 29, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- An unfortunate failure occurred during Orbital Sciences Corporation's Antares launch on October 28, 2014. ATK (NYSE: ATK) is conducting a thorough evaluation of any potential implications resulting from this incident, including current operating plans, long-term strategies, and the proposed transaction to merge the company's Aerospace and Defense businesses with Orbital. |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 16:06 |
#25 pad burning: |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 15:55 |
#24 more background from comments at NasaSpaceFlight.com:The tankage is indeed manufactured in Ukraine, but I believe the one used for this flight was shipped well before the current situation developed, even before the "Maidan" protests. The Antares' first stage tankage equipment is built by Yuzhnoye (Dnipropetrovsk), while the control system for analog Soyuz variants (U, FG) is made by Polysvit (Kharkov). |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 15:50 |
#23 This was news to me (literally, 11 pm last night). Was watching the local news when it launched, and ran outside to see it (supposedly we could see it from Richmond). Never saw anything, but figured maybe the clouds to the east were enough to obscure. Went on about my business and didn't see TV again until ll pm news. Maybe next time. :-( |
Posted by: Barbara 2014-10-29 15:31 |
#22 An arm chair analyst said the following... note not an Orbital person:I went through the video frame by frame several times and came to basically the same conclusion. I've attached screenshots of the two frames before the visible anomaly and two frames where something has clearly gone wrong. |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 15:05 |
#21 Chopper footage of pad this morning: Link |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:59 |
#20 And this comment: We shall see. Different companies do failure boards with different degrees of success. There are lots of explicit and implicit pressures (PR, trying to preserve sunk costs, people who are *sure* what the cause is, political fallout, etc.) that must be ignored, since as Feynman said, "Mother Nature cannot be fooled". Orbital has had failure board failures in the past - they lost a mission due to a failed fairing, convened a failure board, implemented what they thought were enough fixes, then lost the next mission in the same manner. |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:55 |
#19 Orbital to Conduct Conference Call with Financial Analysts and Investors to Discuss Antares Rocket Launch Failure -- 1:00 p.m. (EDT) Conference Call with Financial Analysts and Investors to be Webcast -- DULLES, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 29, 2014-- Orbital Sciences Corporation (NYSE: ORB) announced that it will host a conference call with investors and analysts later today to discuss yesterday’s launch failure of the company’s Antares rocket on a cargo delivery mission to the International Space Station for NASA. The call will begin at 1:00 p.m. (EDT) and will be hosted by: Mr. David W. Thompson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Mr. Garrett E. Pierce, Vice Chairman and Chief Financial Officer To access to the conference call, dial (888) 541-8767 and use the conference ID number 28574595. The conference call will also be webcast through a link on Orbital’s web site at www.orbital.com/investor. A replay of the conference call will be available later in the day online or by dialing (855) 859-2056 and using the same conference ID number. The replay will remain active for three days, until November 1, 2014. More information about Orbital can be found at http://www.orbital.com. |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:53 |
#18 The N1 failure in 69 (same engines) |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:42 |
#17 and this comment: Pegging future hopes to another Russian engine that's already been used as a political asset once in a situation that shows no sign of being resolved. What could go wrong? |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:36 |
#16 and this: Orbital Sciences: If our negs w/ ULA for access to Russian RD-180 engine fail, we can refile our antitrust lawsuit against ULA. |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:34 |
#15 And just before the explosion were tweeting about being prepared to switch to newer Russian motors: Tweet |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:33 |
#14 also regarding the destroyed pad: IIRC the state of Virginia foot a lot of the pad expansion cost. |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:28 |
#13 A great comment by "Greg" at NASASpaceFlight.com (Locked down only to registered users after the explosion) I think it would be more likely to see CRS-6 moved up, maybe even into January, than any substantial changes to CRS-5. Depends on how far through manufacturing the CRS-6 Dragon is, I bet. If I were SpaceX, I'd probably be trying to make a case for NASA to buy a "test flight" of a refurbished Dragon sometime in 2015 to fill the gap without stressing the Dragon manufacturing line. Note NASA has refused to consider used Dragons even though they are rated for 12 to 25 flights. |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:24 |
#12 And of course, had I been 9 minutes earlier... But 3dc is providing much more info than I :) |
Posted by: Tony 2014-10-29 14:18 |
#11 Here is a vid of the press in full panic: |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:17 |
#10 Actually, I don't think this is strictly a NASA vehicle, this one is built by Orbital Sciences and I believe was using 40 year old Russian/Ukrainian engines. NASA is still building big rockets (the SLS, sometimes referred to as the Senate Launch System), but they are redoing the Apollo model. Not their fault, they do what they're told by the USG. The real action is with SpaceX and their Falcon rocket, the next launch which is in November I think, will try to land the (rocket powered) first stage back onto a floating platform. If that succeeds we're really cooking with gas... |
Posted by: Tony 2014-10-29 14:16 |
#9 1) It's NOT a NASA rocket! 2) It's an Orbital (company) rocket carrying a payload to the spacestation for NASA and carrying several other private payloads for $. 3) The engines date from the 1960s. They were Soviet Moon Rocket Engines (N1 - the one that killed most of the Soviet Space Scientists when it blew up on the pad in the 60s.) They were reworked into an AeroJet engine AJ-26. They bought them cheap from the Ukrainians. They were sitting in long term warehouses in the Ukraine since the 60s. (God only knows how crystallized that old metal is.) 4) One of these old engines blew up on the test stands at Stenis earlier this year and it didn't seem to trouble NASA or Orbital ( The test stand explosion ) 5) For the Russian speaking here are the specs of the rocket: engine specs |
Posted by: 3dc 2014-10-29 14:08 |
#8 Yet another company trying to pretend that buying old cold-war era engines from Russia is equivalent to having a real manufacturing program. |
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2014-10-29 13:59 |
#7 Yes!!! |
Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2014-10-29 13:10 |
#6 glad nobody died. On youtube there are videos and annoying alleged Muslims are posting haha type comments in arabic. One quoted the koran and said we'd never raise another rocket. every one would explode from now on. you wonder to yourself is it just nasty gloating or do they sabotage us |
Posted by: anon1 2014-10-29 11:09 |
#5 NASA gets into trouble when they stray from their core mission of improving Islamic relations. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2014-10-29 09:45 |
#4 NASA is starting to make the Postal Service look good. |
Posted by: ed in texas 2014-10-29 07:42 |
#3 The Islamic outreach really pays off. Mod nominee for Snark of the Day |
Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2014-10-29 03:53 |
#2 We can't do big things anymore. |
Posted by: Skidmark 2014-10-29 02:32 |
#1 Reminds me of the first live broadcast of a US rocket launch that I ever saw, back in 1957 - which blew up in a very similar manner. |
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-10-29 00:09 |