You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
-Short Attention Span Theater-
Australian judge says incest may no longer be a taboo
2014-07-11
[TELEGRAPH.CO.UK] A judge in Australia has been criticised after saying incest may no longer be a taboo and that the community may now accept consensual sex between adult siblings.
There is neither right nor wrong, you see.
Judge Garry Neilson, from the district court in the state of New South Wales, likened incest to homosexuality, which was once regarded as criminal and "unnatural" but is now widely accepted.
Homosexual incest would be okay, too, right?
He said incest was now only a crime because it may lead to abnormalities in offspring but this rationale was increasingly irrelevant because of the availability of contraception and abortion.
It's not like there should ever be any limits on anybody, right?
"A jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now 'available', not having [a] sexual partner," the judge said.
If she was dead it would be okay, too. Matter of fact, it would be even better if she were dead, since there wouldn't be any of those deformity worries.
"If this was the 1950s and you had a jury of 12 men there, which is what you'd invariably have, they would say it's unnatural for a man to be interested in another man or a man being interested in a boy. Those things have gone."
So now the time is right to get up close and personal with Sis.
Judge Neilson made the comments during the trial of a brother charged with raping his younger sister. The man has pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting his sister when she was 10 or 11 years old in 1973 or 1974 but has pleaded not guilty to charges relating to sex they had in 1981, when she was 18 and he was 26.
At 10 or 11 she was too young to say "yes," according to the common law we're in the process of discarding. But that has nothing to do with the fact of incest. That relationship continues all the way into adulthood.
"By that stage they are both mature adults," the judge said.
So are Mom and Dad.
"The complainant has been sexually awoken, shall we say, by having two relationships with men and she had become 'free' when the second relationship broke down.
"Free" in the sense of being unencumbered? Or free is in "liberated from the confining shackles of prudery?" Or free as in "no charge?"
She was "sexually awoken," as the honourable judge says, by being raped by the older brother who was supposed to protect her from such things. And now society -- in the form of that judge -- instead of protecting her from her predator, would make her a gift to him? There is no Hell too deep.
The only thing that might change that is the fact that they were a brother and sister but we've come a long way from the 1950s -- when the position of the English Common Law was that sex outside marriage was not lawful."
Prior to English common law there were still both laws and societal taboos. I can't think of a single society that's condoned brothers slipping the baloney to sisters. The only exception to the rule I know of is dynastic Egypt, where royal inheritance passed through the female and brother-sister was sanctioned. There may be others but I'd bet a dollar they're pretty few and far between.
The comments were labelled misogynistic and "completely disgraceful" by Sally Dowling, the crown prosecutor, who has asked an appeal court to appoint another judge.
One with a bit of sense, perhaps?
"The reference to abortion is particularly repellent," she said.
The judge has none of that old-fashioned prejudice against coat hangers.
Dr Cathy Kezelman, an advocate for preventing child sex abuse, said incest was horrific, regardless of the ages of those involved.
With birth control and abortion and such the taboo may be cracked, but if you permit such a thing between unmarried couples how can you not permit marriage and reproduction to such couples? They need "equal rights," too.
"The relational betrayal of the horrors of incest between a brother and sister of any age is abhorrently criminal," she told The Sydney Morning Herald.
"If it feels good, do it" isn't much of a foundation for a society. Here at Rantburg we're watching a culture that takes prudery to an extreme, while we're living in a society that goes just as far to the other extreme. Could we maybe change our slogan to "if it feels right, do it"?
Posted by:Fred

#12  You hear the term "sodomized" alot but nobody uses the term "gomotrahized."
/channeling Jay Leno
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2014-07-11 16:51  

#11  Yet another way to boost the ranks of "progressive" voters.
Posted by: Josing Anguper1485   2014-07-11 14:03  

#10  I hear cannibalism is not unlawful in New South Wales, so maybe this is not such a great leap when it comes to the legal prohibition of certain, ummm, behaviors.
Posted by: SteveS   2014-07-11 13:11  

#9  No prohibitions on behavior? How's that working out?
Posted by: Caesar Splat8376   2014-07-11 11:59  

#8  Didn't know they had NAMBLA in New South Wales.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2014-07-11 11:22  

#7  Well look at the Muslim world for the result of this happening.

Massive birth defects and mental disorders galore.
Posted by: DarthVader   2014-07-11 10:52  

#6  Any Ptolemy to the courtesy phone.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-07-11 10:44  

#5  Welcome to the era of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Lot will be learnt, Lot will change if De Judge has his way.

Suggest they leave for Zoar, but watch your whiskey in your water, the sugar in your tea, expect crazy coincidences' happening to thee.

Youz can take this with a grain of salt or even a pillar of salt for that matter.

Posted by: Snakes Whiter4848   2014-07-11 09:52  

#4  'Tis the way of the Gods. And it worked well for the Pharoahs. Right?
Posted by: Glenmore   2014-07-11 09:18  

#3  Liberalism. Everything must be "advanced" as time goes on. They just dont know what not to advance.
Posted by: gorb   2014-07-11 09:03  

#2  Ever seen a cat with five legs and six toes? I saw one in Massachusetts once, or was it California?
Posted by: Big Thromoth3646   2014-07-11 04:22  

#1  Dogs do it, why not people. (Well, we'e smarter than Dogs.)
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2014-07-11 00:16  

00:00