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Europe
Report: Polish minister says US ties worthless
2014-06-22
Ay-Peee. Oblahblah has really hit the reset button with our allies
A Polish magazine said Sunday it has obtained recordings of a conversation in which Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski says the country's strong alliance with the U.S. "isn't worth anything" and is "even harmful because it creates a false sense of security."
the weak horse
In a short transcript of the conversation, a person identified as Sikorski by the magazine Wprost tells former finance minister, Jacek Rostowski, that Poles naively believe the U.S. bolsters their security. Using vulgar language, the person argues that such beliefs are nonsense, and that the Polish-U.S. alliance alienates the Russians and Germans.
the strong horse.
Posted by:Frank G

#13  Fuck him. He's equating America to that poser in office. America fought two wars in europe. We, the United States, not Poland defeated Russia and gave them opportunity for their solidarity movement. We are weak right now, granted. We were weak before WWI and weak before WWII. Don't ever underestimate us.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2014-06-22 23:35  

#12  In the meantime, what are we supposed to do? We're married to these worthless sons of bitches, I think it's time to get a divorce, and break the country up. Otherwise they're going to continue to try to get back at us by backstabbing all of our friends.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2014-06-22 19:41  

#11  They are a whole different country after all, and a Great Power and once a Superpower. Any prickliness was just sort of the way things go in that sort of situation. God the Obama foreign policy has been horrible.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2014-06-22 17:12  

#10  What Obama and company didn't understand was that the situation with Russia was as close to optimal as possible when they hit the reset button and restored the cold war.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2014-06-22 17:12  

#9  We had good ties prior to Obummer. Obummer owns this not the American people. Heard an Israeli talking this morning on TV and he said essentially the same thing. How many in other countries are feeling the same way? Good many in the U.S. feel the same way. Some kool aid drinkers still think he is the ONE. Go figure.
Posted by: JohnQC   2014-06-22 16:58  

#8  To misquote Fawlty Towers, whatever you do, don't talk about the Molotov-Ribbentroff Pact.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2014-06-22 16:17  

#7  Again?
Posted by: Pappy   2014-06-22 14:13  

#6  Also note, he's implying that the Russians and Germans are actually in some sort of an alliance.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2014-06-22 13:37  

#5  These are the consequences of losing a war one cannot afford to lose.
After losing the 9/11 war US security guarantees just aren't rationally credible anymore.
9/11 has shown that staging a massive attack on the CONUS is a winning move, ultimately.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2014-06-22 13:28  

#4  I think that Obama is weak and useless, but I also think that anything good for Poland would probably alienate the Russians and Germans.

Continued Polish existence alienates the Russians and Germans.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2014-06-22 13:18  

#3   "isn't worth anything" and is "even harmful because it creates a false sense of security."

The analogy of 'Obamacare' is inescapable.
Posted by: Besoeker   2014-06-22 12:09  

#2  God bless the Poles - they know the truth when they see it.
Posted by: OldSpook   2014-06-22 12:04  

#1  Kinda hard to argue with.
However, from a Polish point of view, you have to wonder if cooperating with the Russians and Germans will get you anything. Besides invaded again. The German and Russian perspective on what's good and bad about Europe hasn't altered a whole lot since, oh, say, 1930. (Either that, or it's come full circle.)
Posted by: ed in texas   2014-06-22 11:55  

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