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Hundreds of gunmen surround Ukraine military base
2014-03-02
[FOXNEWS] Hundreds of unidentified gunnies surrounded a Ukraine's infantry base in Privolnoye in its Crimea region Sunday.

The convoy included at least 13 troop vehicles each containing 30 soldiers and four armored vehicles with mounted machine guns. The vehicles -- which have Russian license plates -- have surrounded the base and are blocking Ukrainian soldiers from entering or leaving it.

Ukrainian soldiers, with clips in their weapons, have positioned a tank at the gate. The outnumbered Ukrainians placed a tank at the base's gate, leaving the two sides in a tense standoff.

In Kiev, Ukraine's new prime minister urged Russian President Vladimir Putin
...Second and fourth President of the Russian Federation and the first to remain sober. Putin is credited with bringing political stability and re-establishing something like the rule of law, which occasionally results in somebody dropping dead from polonium poisoning. Under Putin, a new group of business magnates controlling significant swathes of Russia's economy has emerged, all of whom have close personal ties to Putin. The old bunch, without close personal ties to Putin, are in jail or in exile or dead...
to pull back his military, warning that "we are on the brink of disaster."

Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk spoke a day after Russian forces took over the strategic Black Sea peninsula of Crimea from Ukraine without firing a shot.

"There was no reason for the Russian Federation to invade Ukraine," Yatsenyuk said after a closed session of his new parliament in Kiev.

So far, the new government in Kiev has been powerless to react to Russian military tactics. Armed men in uniforms without insignia have moved freely about the key peninsula, occupying airports, smashing equipment at an air base and besieging a Ukrainian infantry base.

Russia has its key Black Sea Fleet stationed on the Crimean peninsula -- which was formerly part of Russia until 1954 -- and nearly 60 percent of Crimea's residents identify themselves as Russian.

Putin has defied calls from the West to pull back his troops, insisting that Russia has a right to protect its interests and Russian-speakers in Crimea and elsewhere in Ukraine. However,
we can't all be heroes. Somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by...
there has been no sign of ethnic Russians facing attacks in Crimea or elsewhere in Ukraine.
Posted by:Fred

#8  Insofar as we have accepted the presentation of the revolution as a fascist coup, we have delayed policies that might have stopped the killing earlier, and helped prepare the way for war. Insofar as we wish for peace and democracy, we are going to have to begin by getting the story right. Anything else is to reinforce the authoritarians and decrease a just and proper settlement.
Posted by: OldSpook   2014-03-02 21:33  

#7  Rock spider. Hairy back.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2014-03-02 16:51  

#6  Ja g(r)omsky, but only pathological if you're a soutie. :-)
Posted by: Besoeker   2014-03-02 16:41  

#5  Pathological.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2014-03-02 15:58  

#4  Depends on definition of "well"? The Russians wearing the jackboots this time, instead of the Germans. A nationalistic socialist is the same regardless of label. And beware regurgitating propaganda that has been used to whip up Russian sheeple, in the form of a "threat" from "fascists" and "Nazis". No reports of this except from the usual left-wing players and Russian sycophants, and no real evidence if you examine their claims. The willingness to believe such tripe shows gullibility, a lack of critical thinking, and demonstrates a great deal of ethnic-based thinly veiled bigotry on the part of the people believing such things uncritically. All it does is make such people a useful tool/fool.

This could have been resolved without the military component - there were already votes scheduled in the Crimea for further separation from Ukraine, and further autonomy -- which would likely have lead to the anschluss that Fuhrer Putin wanted. There was no threat to the ethic Russian citizens - it was as manufactured a threat as was the mistreatment of ethnic Germans in the Sudeten or the Danzig corridor. This is thuggery and political intimidation, period.

For you, Grom, I guess you think it turns out "well" if you end up being the side wearing the jackboots. For me, Id rather there be no jackboots at all. Thats the difference between us.
Posted by: OldSpook   2014-03-02 15:49  

#3  Depends on your definition of "well", Besoeker.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2014-03-02 12:14  

#2  This will not end well.
Posted by: Besoeker   2014-03-02 11:30  

#1  Putin has defied calls from the West to pull back his troops, insisting that Russia has a right to protect its interests and Russian-speakers in Crimea and elsewhere in Ukraine.

..or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, et al. Can you say Sudetenland boys and girls? They're back. They just morphed from commies to nazis which is easy as they're all socialists.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-03-02 10:25  

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