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Home Front: Politix
From Michele Bachmann, Why Many Republicans Don't Fear Shutdown
2013-09-30
[Washington Examiner] Bachmann pointed to a recent Washington Post article which included a long list of government shutdowns in the last 35 years. "We were there 17 times," she said. "Five times under Jimmy Carter they did a government shutdown. Eight times under Reagan -- twice in October before the 1984 landslide. And they didn't worry about it, they just did it."

"I was looking at some of the history," Bachmann continued. "When the Republicans did the slowdown in '95, they did two, one in November and then one in December. What they were fighting over, the first one, was getting the budget to balance in seven years. And the second one was over Bill Clinton trying to do a sleight of hand -- he wanted to use Office of Management and Budget numbers versus Congressional Budget Office numbers. So the Republicans shut the joint down over using OMB numbers over the CBO. My, how times have changed. We're considered radical to have a ten-year balance under Paul Ryan. We're going to shut the government down under OMB versus CBO ? That's what they did then. Now, in my opinion, I don't think I'd be shutting the government down over that."

But even then, House Republicans did not suffer terrible consequences, as Bachmann and others point out. After the shutdowns, the GOP was re-elected to control of the House in 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, and 2004 before losing in 2006.

So Bachmann, and many other Republicans, remain unafraid as the clock ticks down. "I don't get upset about brinksmanship," she told me. "That's what negotiation is. I was a federal tax lawyer. That's all I did -- negotiation. And in negotiation, you usually don't get anywhere until the final five minutes, and then everybody realizes OK, we're going to have to break and actually make this thing happen. That's how negotiation works."
Posted by:trailing wife

#7  So it's official. The Republicans in Congress are the only people on the planet Champ can beat in a negotiation.
Posted by: Iblis   2013-09-30 22:23  

#6  "Looks like they understood the trap."

Looks like they figured out who has the guns.
Posted by: Barbara   2013-09-30 21:29  

#5  Looks like they understood the trap.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-09-30 20:25  

#4  Best option is to separate the military pay from the package, pass it and send it to Reid with the notation that till that's done, no more talking. If he tables it or votes it down, the Trunks can use it as a club as the Donks use racism. What an opening - "Our men and women are on the front lines for our safety and security and the team of Obama and Reid back stab those willing to give the last full measure for 'us'. Their families back home are dependent upon the pay for their basics of food, clothing and shelter and the Desperate Duo would sacrifice them to exercise power and dominion." If there's one thing that probably cause the phones in the Senators offices to melt down, that certain would. Added benefit would be that the military rank and file knows who has their back and its not the ones working towards a one party system.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-09-30 15:35  

#3  Couple options:

- Split the CR into pieces. One to fund military. One to fund social security. Etc. The Senate would have to take up each separately and vote it down.

- Don't delay the individual mandate. Permanently change the penalty to $1 per family.
Posted by: Iblis   2013-09-30 11:56  

#2  1 - regardless the Party Organ Media will always blame the Republicans. To paraphrase a Donk - what difference does it make.

2 - by the second time around in '95, the public started to shift and Clinton's numbers were dropping (and they were paying attention to those).

3 - if it goes long enough, both parties will see their numbers drop. They're like climbers linked by a rope.

4 - Congress' numbers have been nearly single digit for quite a while. They can't go much lower.

5 - The Pres has cross the 40% and is in decline, this will only accelerate it to his 'koolaid' level of support. Unless he's prepared to openly declare the 'dictatorship of the proletariat', he won't have much to work with particularly as Obamacare will eat the electorate by Nov 14 who'll remember he and he alone stuck them with it.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-09-30 08:53  

#1  The Bammer Admin, GOP-Right, + many DemoLefties all know that the crushing US Debt has to come down + be paid off - IMO the issue here is ULTERIOR MOTIVES, espec as per PRE-2015 TRADITIONAL US NATIONALISM + "SOLE" SOVEREIGNTY, VERSUS POST-2015 GLOBALISM + ANTI-US "MULTILATERAL/MULTIMATIONAL" SOVEREIGNTY...

And the like ...

No, ULTERIOR = ALTERIOR = CONTERIOR = ANTERIOR MOTIVES??

D *** NG, I KNEW IT!

lol.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-09-30 00:32  

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