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| 2012-12-24 | |
 [Online.WSJ] Behind Scenes, Boehner Failed to Sell Republicans on Taxes, While Obama's Spending Plans RankledAt one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, "I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?" "You get nothing," the president said. "I get that for free."
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| Posted by:Fred |
| #16 By the way, they show the "Cliff" as a precipiece, no, it's a wall, now climb it Obumbles. Or is that work? Yup work, it's the way WE do things, NOT PRESIDE. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2012-12-24 19:12 |
| #15 "Walk of the cliff hell" PUSH Obumbles over and watch him fall. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2012-12-24 19:08 |
| #14 Fine. Walk off the cliff. More taxes and less spending mean less debt. I'm all for it. |
| Posted by: gorb 2012-12-24 16:26 |
| #13 Boehner said the screwing you get just isn't worth the screwing you get and walked away. Obama could have done something when he had the House and Senate during the first two years and didn't. He chose to screw the country and run up the debt by ramming ObamaCare through--"You have to pass it to read it nonsense. Has Champ had a budget yet? |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2012-12-24 15:57 |
| #12 Champ thinks he's god and the US is Satan. With that as a starting point the rest sort of makes sense. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2012-12-24 14:26 |
| #11 It's that time Mr. Lightoller. Bring those lads to the boat deck immediately and thank them properly for their valiant efforts on the pumps. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2012-12-24 14:01 |
| #10 If we go over the fiscal cliff Obama gets to cut the military and blame The Republicans. He gets to cut any programs he doesn't like, and blame the Republicans. He gets to raise taxes on the middle class and the upper class and blame the Republicans. Why would the Republicans think that they can hammer out a deal to avoid the cliff. They need to let him own it, make him own it, because they really can't stop it. Problem is the Republicans as shown in the last election just can't get the world to believe them despite the facts. There is a cult of personality around Obama and I'm not sure it can be deflated while he is in office. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2012-12-24 13:39 |
| #9 No worries, he'll shift funding around to fit his priorities. Congress is the least of his worries. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2012-12-24 13:23 |
| #8 that's what I don't understand, it will gut DOD over the next decade. those are the only govt employees that they seem to like, even they are not worth compromising for? cuts are automatic, now is not the time to play chicken, you have nothing to gain by winning that game. |
| Posted by: bigjim-CA 2012-12-24 13:21 |
| #7 Give the donks what they want, let them own it. The problem is there will be no one left absorb the lesson. The problem with "negotiating" with Obama is he wants us to go over the cliff. The press will blame the Republicans and it gives him an excuse to gut the military. The thing Rantburgers need to remember is Obama considers the US to be the "most genocidal country in the history of the world." Think about that. We are supposedly worse than Mao (60 million dead), Stalin (30 million), and Hitler (25 million). Wouldn't you want to destroy such a country? The problem with the Republicans is they think they are dealing with someone they disagree with. In reality they are dealing with someone who wants to destroy them, their values and their entire way of life. Al |
| Posted by: Frozen Al 2012-12-24 11:32 |
| #6 Too many free thinkers, He'll never do it. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2012-12-24 10:23 |
| #5 Champ's goal isn't lower taxes. Champ's goal is a one party system. He's nearly there. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2012-12-24 04:26 |
| #4 I LIKE that, he's got it. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2012-12-24 04:11 |
| #3 I told you that there will be no outcome with negotiating with Banana. I have already said it. Give the donks what they want, let them own it. The American people need a lesson. The American people produced Champ, raised him up, and now they have to take the fall. Detroit is a prophecy. We WILL go over the cliff. Deadlock,blame and Inflation like you won't believe. Gasoline at $8/gallon. Gold at 3,600/oz. No? Champ will be swimming in Hawaii. I took all my assets out of the US to Southern Asia. I can live on the thirtieth floor in Singapore and read about it in the news. When a gallon of milk is $8 at Majicmart, it won't effect me at all. I don't live in the projects when the dollar is devalued and the checks stop coming. Ever seen the warehouses for the walking dead in lower Miami? Ever seen the bony shanks and the canasta games under a bare lightbulb ? Ever seen sixteen walkerframes creeping down the block on some streets there? Welcome to paradise. Do you smell piss ? And down at the VA there are urine soaked sheets stacked in the elevator. But you got a Bronze Star in exchange for your leg. Your wife lives in a trailer off base and your kids don't know you. Spell inevitable for me. |
| Posted by: Threater Flusoper9823 2012-12-24 03:30 |
| #2 I sincerely hoe his arrogance sinks him, there's no question he's an arrogant "I'm the boss" asshole, but the "Peepul" will always vote for the person who "Gives" them goodies, so we'll have to choose better next time. (And he's NOT eligible) We need better People. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2012-12-24 02:21 |
| #1 agree completely. let Champ be seen as in Hawaii frolicking in the surf and inflexible during budget negotiations. |
| Posted by: Mikey Hunt 2012-12-24 01:39 |