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Olde Tyme Religion
Self-damage from Muslim rage
2012-09-23
The fear in the Islamic world is not so much that the enraged Moslems will kill non-Moslems, but that they will end up killing fellow-Moslems and destabilise their governments

On 15 September 2012, Din TV discussed the blaspheming film 'Innocence of Moslems' with the host taking the view that innocent people should not be killed to avenge the crime of one person in America. He tried to attract the attention of half a dozen discussants to the fact that an American ambassador had been killed in Libya which was an outrage against Islam itself because an innocent man had been killed; he also warned that offended Moslems should not destroy Moslem property and kill innocent Moslems to quench the fire of their rage.

After regulation expression of outrage, most discussants were inclined to the cautious view but two holy manal scholars tended to excuse the killing of Americans becae the US as a state was to blame 'on the basis of the passage of the offending film by US Censor Board and its widespread showing in American cinema' houses before it finally appeared on Youtube. Qari Zawwar Bahadur was full of anger and insisted together with another holy man that Moslems should express their outrage and let the Americans be shown all over the world that their government was guilty of an inexcusable crime.

US Special Envoy Ambassador Grossman was in Islamabad planning the next tripartite Pak-Afghan-US talks later in the year. He announced that his government condemned the blaspheming film and was in no way involved in making it public. American website American Spectator on 15 September 2012 put out this observation: 'The supposed source of all this froth is a satirical movie called "Innocence of Moslems" directed and produced by a man named Sam Bacile, isn't packing theatres nationwide; in fact, it hasn't even been released yet. But a few trailer snippets drifting around YouTube were supposedly enough to incite a mob to murder an ambassador'.

The state has erred by embracing an unrealistic anti-Americanism which lacks capacity to harm the target country but prompts the Paks to attack their own state as a 'slave of America'
The American ambassador was killed at the consulate in Benghazi after he had issued an official condemnation of the blaspheming film. In Washington the Republicans attacked President B.O. for taking an apologetic position on the film. The violence at the consulate in Benghazi was followed in Bloody Karachi
...formerly the capital of Pakistain, now merely its most important port and financial center. It may be the largest city in the world, with a population of 18 million, most of whom hate each other and many of whom are armed and dangerous...
 when a mob attacked the US consulate in the city. Just as in Libya, through the salafists, and in Egypt, through a flag, Al Qaeda may have been acting behind the scenes in Bloody Karachi too, threatening to assert its domination through the creeping conquest of the Taliban - as reported by interior minister Rehman Malik
Pak politician, Interior Minister under the Gilani government. Malik is a former Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) intelligence officer who rose to head the FIA during Benazir Bhutto's second tenure. Malik was tossed from his FIA job in 1998 after documenting the breath-taking corruption of the Sharif family. By unhappy coincidence Nawaz Sharif became PM at just that moment and Malik moved to London one step ahead of the button men. He had to give up the interior ministry job because he held dual Brit citizenship.
. Police mobiles have been burned and one man killed as if according to a plot aimed at damaging Pakistain under the pretext of protest.

More ominous events are foretold for Afghanistan where American troops are physically exposed to an Afghan Army that the US has built up as its surrogate after it leaves the country in 1914. After Laghman, where the Taliban killed American troops, luring a counterattack that killed a number of innocent Afghan women, Afghan Army troops have killed their American partners in Zabul and Helmand
...an Afghan province populated mostly by Pashtuns, adjacent to Injun country in Pak Balochistan...
. Elsewhere Moslem protesters will kill fellow-Moslems, destabilise their countries in the process and pave the way for turban organizations like Al Qaeda and its affiliates for takeover.

The American News Agency that Dare Not be Named agency dug out the truth about the offending maker of the film. The man behind 'Innocence of Moslems' is Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a 55-year-old Coptic Christian with a criminal past who lives in Caliphornia. He has admitted to providing logistical support for the production of 'Innocence of Moslems' but has denied being Sam Bacile, the name given as the film's maker. But the evidence so far unearthed suggests he is the man. He has stated that the film cost $5 million, which was raised from 100 Israeli donors.
Or not. But Pakistanis do love hating those Juices.
The film is of poor quality. Priest Terry Jones, the Florida-based, Koran-burning pastor, is also said to be involved.

In Pakistain the National Assembly condemned the Youtube outrage and called the incident 'shameful' and 'derogatory' and demanded that YouTube, the platform which hosts the video, remove the 14-minute clip. (It has since been removed.)
Has it? I thought they refused.
It is still available here in the USA, but has been blocked in several foreign countries.
The foreign Ministry had already sent out a strong condemnation earlier.

Meanwhile,
...back at the sea battle, the Terror of the Baltic's career had come to an abrupt and watery end...
 Pakistain Moslem League-Nawaz (PML-N) Christian minority member Dr Nelson Azeem called for a ban on the video and said that every Christian in Pakistain condemns this act.
"Please don't hurt us!"
The Christian community of Pakistain condemned the blaspheming film to demonstrate their solidarity with the Moslem community of Pakistain. Pakistain has mounted special security for European and American diplomatic missions in Pakistain to prevent Death Eaters from committing vandalism.

The fear in the Islamic world is not so much that the enraged Moslems will kill non-Moslems but that they will end up killing fellow-Moslems and destabilise their governments. It has happened in Pakistain after the Salman Rushdie affair and in the wake of the insulting cartoons published in Denmark in 2006.

Predictably,
Indeed.
Egyptian demonstrators clashed with police, protests in Malaysia, Bangladesh, Yemen and Sudan went kaboom!. American and Western embassies came under threat and Christian minorities in the Islamic world anticipated terror. Expat Moslems in the West came out in the streets to shout their outrage, their media coverage worldwide sparked further action, while Afghanistan promised to be the final battleground because of the physical presence of American and Allied troops there.

Pakistain should tremble at what might happen next. Al Qaeda has stamped its presence in Egypt, Syria and Libya where a new prospect of carnage of Moslems to punish the West is opening up. Already Pakistain's innocent citizens are being massacred by Al Qaeda with the help of Punjabi Taliban and jihadi warriors laid aside by Pakistain Army when it decided to abandon jihad in Kashmire.
Did they do? I missed that.
Memories of what happened in Pakistain in 2006 in Lahore and other cities after a newspaper in Denmark published blaspheming cartoons will inspire Al Qaeda in its latest round of terror. In this it could be helped by the generalized outrage against the film among the prospective victims.

In March 2006, the blaspheming Danish cartoons caused one of Pakistain's most historic cities, Lahore, to be put to the torch.
In March 2006, the blaspheming Danish cartoons caused one of Pakistain's most historic cities, Lahore, to be put to the torch. The politicians, keen to steal the thunder of the clergy, joined in the anti-cartoon march and refused to act as the moderating influence in society. Getting together with the clergy to stage a protest march in Lahore against Denmark was a not a wise policy.

The Denmark cartoons which had been published in September were avenged in November. The Punjab government thought it could capitalise on the Moslem rage and win the 2007 or 2008 election. On Lahore's Mall, the rioters torched hundreds of cars and cycle of violences and damaged government buildings and private businesses. Outlets of foreign fast food companies McDonald's, KFC and Pizza Hut as well as several local restaurants and businesses were attacked and set on fire. Several shops and travel agencies were broken into and looted.

The demonstrators entered the Punjab Legislative Assembly and torched a room next to the chamber of the opposition leader. After that they moved on to the Pakistain International Airlines (PIA) building and broke its front. They attacked the hotel Holiday Inn on Egerton Road and the nearby Aiwan-e-Iqbal, smashing windows and burning cars. On The Mall, Dayal Singh Mansions came in for thorough destruction. The blaze at the KFC restaurant spread to the upper stories of the Coopera Art Gallery, a Moslem Commercial Bank branch, a National Bank branch, and a Telenor franchise. The mob had earlier set fire to a petrol station there.

Pakistain's capacity for self-damage on the basis of outrage is enhanced because of two factors: 1) presence of America and Al Qaeda close to Pakistain and 2) the persistence in force of Blasphemy Law which victimises non-Moslems. The public mind has been rendered dull by repeated scenes of death and annihilation - which is ignored by the victims as America's war. The state has erred by embracing an unrealistic anti-Americanism which lacks capacity to harm the target country but prompts the Paks to attack their own state as a 'slave of America'.
Posted by:trailing wife

#5  "not so much that the enraged Moslems will kill non-Moslems, but that they will end up killing fellow-Moslems and destabilise their governments"

1. They don't have actual governments, just the looney strong-men du jour.

2. What's the downside?
Posted by: Barbara   2012-09-23 20:30  

#4  I hope that Israel coordinates with India so that whenever Iran is bombed the Pakistani nukes can be grabbed at the same time. After that let the muslim world rage itself to death.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2012-09-23 19:03  

#3  Water Modem, for now....
Posted by: twobyfour   2012-09-23 01:32  

#2  passage of the offending film by US Censor Board

AH... What US Censor Board?
obviously these dorks will never understand...
freedom!
Posted by: Water Modem   2012-09-23 01:11  

#1  You need to put a bounty on those who sell, Import, or reload bullets and clamp down on their Bullet-Makers, that'll end this war.
It's not so much fun if you have to hack people to death, far easier to pull a trigger.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2012-09-23 01:05  

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