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EU 'plot' to scrap nation states in Europe
2012-05-04
SENIOR Eurocrats are secretly plotting to create a super-powerful EU president to realise their dream of abolishing ­Britain and other nation states, the Daily Express can reveal.
Secret? It's been an established fact this past generation. The EUniks absolutely want a single nation-state (plus both UN seats) with the old national borders abolished. The current nations won't even have the power of a US county...
A covert group of EU foreign ministers has drawn up plans for merging the jobs currently done by Herman Van Rompuy, president of the European Council, and Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission.

The new bureaucrat, who would not be directly elected by voters,
That wouldn't do, how on earth would they ever manage to control the new nation if they have to be accountable to the little people?
is set to get sweeping control over the entire EU and force member countries into ever-greater political and economic union. Tellingly, the UK has been excluded from the confidential discussions within the shady “Berlin Group” of Europhile politicians, spearheaded by German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle.
Not to be confused with a new Frederick the Great, Napoleon or Hitler...
Opponents fear the plan could create a modern-day equivalent of the European emperor envisaged by Napoleon Bonaparte or a return to the Holy Roman Empire of Charlemagne that dominated Europe in the Dark Ages. They are concerned that David CameronÂ’s coalition Government is doing nothing to prevent the sinister plot.

The secret talks were uncovered by Independent Labour peer Lord Stoddart of Swindon. “This is a plot by people who want to abolish nation states and create a United States of Europe,” he said. “The whole thing is barmy. These people are determined to achieve their final objective.

“The only hope for Britain is to leave the EU and become an independent nation.”

The move will give further momentum to the Daily ExpressÂ’s hugely popular crusade for BritainÂ’s withdrawal from the EU.

Tory backbench MP Douglas Carswell said: “It doesn’t matter how you arrange the offices of these technocrats, they are useless at arranging our lives for us and they are not elected so they have no legitimacy. My worry is that the president will end up having the charisma of Van Rompuy and the economic management skills of Barroso.”
You should be so lucky. We have Obama, Biden and Pelosi...
Euro-MP Paul Nuttall, of the UK Independence Party, said: “This is a truly ridiculous idea that must never be allowed to happen. It sounds as if they are trying to go back to the days of the Holy Roman Emperor.”

At present, the two senior EU bureaucrats, Mr Barroso and Mr Van Rompuy, are locked in a bitter power struggle to determine who is the true big cheese or “grand fromage” in Europe. Former Portuguese premier Mr Barroso, who heads the EU’s executive arm and was elected to his post by members of the European Union, is understood to resent the rival fiefdom of Belgian Mr Van Rompuy, who was chosen by the heads of ­government of EU member states to represent them.

Under the plan, a single figure would be elected by Euro-MPs to perform both roles.
Supporters of the move believe that the rival presidencies are undermining the EUÂ’s ability to speak with a single voice. They argue that merging the two jobs will create a powerful European leader who is capable of pursuing the federalist dream of a united Europe which has been severely shaken by the eurozone crisis.

Lord Stoddart confirmed the existence of the plot thanks to a parliamentary written answer in the House of Lords. He asked Foreign Office ministers to reveal what they knew about the merger talks.

In response to his inquiry, Tory Foreign Office minister Lord Howell of Guildford said: “We are aware of one group of EU foreign ministers meeting on an informal basis to discuss a variety of issues related to the future governance of the EU.
'Informal' is not 'secret'...
“While the UK is not part of that group, we understand that one idea under discussion is a merger of the positions of president of the European Council and president of the European Commission.”

Lord Howell added: “A merger of the two presidencies would create a potential conflict of interest, undermine the quality of the EU’s decision-making processes and upset the institutional balance within the EU.” Lord Stoddart said: “These sorts of informal discussions within the EU have a habit of rapidly being transferred into formal proposals.

“Since the Government is not party to these discussions, its reservations are academic.

“Such a merger would represent a massive shift of power into the hands of a single, unelected bureaucrat. The Government should be taking this far more seriously and voicing its objections very strongly.”

He added: “The holder of this new office would be both Europe’s political and administrative leader, giving them far more powers than those given to the US president. It really is a great disappointment that we have a Conservative-led Government that is supposed to be Eurosceptic yet ministers just go along with this.”
Posted by:Steve White

#8  "Globalism" + "Communitarianism/Communalism" + OWG-NWO/SPACE GOVT-ORDER + NGO/New Girl Order.

See also WAFF > EXITING EURO COULD SPARK GREEK REVIVAL, DOOM GERMANY [strong DMark]: HSBC'S KING [Stephen King].

No matter what, there will be many months of financial + economic, etc. turmoil to put up with.

Superpower Washington, DC = OWG equivalent of a US State-Local Govt... ....???

and

* FREEREPUBLIC > SOCCER TO ECLIPSE BASKETBALL + HOCKEY? US$200.0MILYUHN ADIDAS DEAL SAYS YES!

Time to begin loving or proudly surrendering like France, wear Manpons + carry a European Shoulder Bag, + initiate massive Soccer Riots/Wars just because we can???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-05-04 22:38  

#7  Move along, people, once again there is absolutely positively categorically undeniably ...........@etc. no pro-OWG Agendum being put in place.

AND DON'T YOU EVAR! FERGIT WHAT WE NEVER TOLD YOU!

D **** NG IT, THERE WON'T BE A MILITARY CAMPAIGN AGZ IRAN ANY TIME NOW!

But I digress ....
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-05-04 20:06  

#6  Yeah, but some of those other nation states need eliminating. Chechnya comes to mind. Dagestan, Ingushetia, Ossetia...WTF? And do we really need Belarus? I sure don't.

Sorry if that sounds harsh. What I really mean is that, in the cases of Napoleon and Hitler, Russia and Britain were essentially allies whether they liked it or not. That's what it took to maintain their independence. Expect the Brits to overlook some of Russia's warts if the rest of Europe gets out of control again.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2012-05-04 19:09  

#5  Oh, yeah, like Russia isn't into eliminating whatever other nation states it can get away with.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2012-05-04 17:10  

#4  This is why Russia and Britain, as much as they dislike each other, need each other.

The tune changes but the song remains the same.
Posted by: Secret Master   2012-05-04 12:51  

#3  This is why Russia and Britain, as much as they dislike each other, need each other.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2012-05-04 12:00  

#2  Euro-FEMA regions. They'll no doubt be announced soon.
Posted by: Besoeker   2012-05-04 11:20  

#1  So would the superstate reject honoring the debts of it's defunct ex-states?
Posted by: Water Modem   2012-05-04 04:56  

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