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Iran's 'distressed' oil to keep flowing - at deep discount
2012-01-13
Does anyone know the threshold price per bbl at which Iran will actually start losing money? I saw something in the news that said about $86/bbl, but I can't believe that at all. I'll bet it's more like $10/bbl. All they have to do is pull it out of the ground, put it in a tanker, and pay to keep everything maintained.
Allah takes care of all maintenance. That's one less expense right there...
Despite tightening sanctions on Iran's oil industry, experts say the country's crude should still flow -- but perhaps at a deep discount.

In fact, the bargaining has already begun, two analysts said.

China, the largest buyer of Iranian oil, has sharply reduced its imports from Iran over the past two months.

But it hasn't been in sympathy with U.S. efforts to pressure Iran on its nuclear efforts. Rather, China believes it can negotiate a lower price.

"This isn't about Beijing trying to be a good actor," said Trevor Houser, a partner at the international economics research firm Rhodium Group. "The Chinese are trying to get a better price on what is now a distressed asset."

Iran finds its oil in a state of distress thanks to tightening sanctions imposed by the United States, Britain and anticipated moves from the European Union.

As Iran loses customers, remaining clients like China can ask for a discount oil price.
Now it all makes sense.
Houser suspects Iran will ultimately have to sell its oil for a 10% to 15% discount, putting a significant dent in the government's budget.

"That's much greater than anything we've seen to date in terms of impact from sanctions," he said.

Oil price spike from Iran sanctions seems unlikely

The U.S. sanctions basically say any bank that processes Iranian oil transactions will be barred from doing business in the United States. The sanctions are in effect but enforcement hasn't begun.

They are the toughest sanctions the United States has imposed on Iran's oil industry, which supplies the Iranian government with about half of its revenue.

Iran exports about 2.3 million barrels of oil per day, mostly to Asia. The world consumes about 89 million barrels a day.

The sanctions are designed to put financial pressure on Iran so it gives up its nuclear program, which Iran says is for peaceful purposes but many suspect is intended to produce a bomb.

Experts are mixed on whether the sanctions will actually work.

On Thursday Japan, the second-largest buyer of Iranian oil, said it will gradually shift away from buying Iranian crude. There were conflicting reports that India, Iran's third-largest customer, will do the same. European nations and South Korea are expected to wean themselves from Iranian oil over the next year.

In many ways this is a win-win situation for President Obama and European leaders. They want to hit Iran where it hurts -- in its wallet -- but don't want to cause an oil price spike that will have a similar effect on drivers in their home countries. Having Iran still supply the world with crude -- but at a lower price -- hits that goal.

"At the end of the day, the Obama administration doesn't want to fully implement" the sanctions, said Greg Priddy, an oil analyst at Eurasia Group, a political risk consultancy. "They want something that hurts them, not us."

Priddy agreed that Iran's oil will need to be sold at a discount.

But other analysts doubt these new sanctions will really hurt Iran.
Iran can drive up the price of oil again and then accept additional money under the table, still at a relative "discount".
Oil is an easily traded commodity. Iran can find buyers for its crude on the black market, through middle men, or from countries willing to flout the sanctions.

The sanctions could cause the price of oil to go up, so even if Iran does reduce the amount of crude it sells, it won't suffer financially.

"I don't think this is a serious blow," said Manouchehr Takin, an energy analyst at the Center for Global Energy Studies in London and a former executive in the consortium that ran Iran's oil fields under the Shah. "They might even gain revenue if the price goes up."
Posted by:gorb

#8  Distressed Oil?

Have they considered counseling to make it feel better?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2012-01-13 17:35  

#7  I have to agree. Oil is a fungible commodity. As soon as it leaves Iran, it ceases to be Iranian.

What does affect Iran is if it gets into a war with Israel, the US or both. At that point, oil does not leave Iran. Nor can they continue to refine it for long, and none of their neighbors will dare export refined petroleum to Iran.

A blockade of the Gulf works both ways. It means no Chinese ships, either. And pipelines are very vulnerable.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2012-01-13 16:43  

#6  This is all complete nonsense. As long as Iran can physically export oil they won't loose anything.

The number of barrels sold doesn't go down because of that. If Europe or Japan doesn't buy Iranian oil they will buy from someone else. Since production is not going up this is just a bookkeeping issue.

The Chinese may still get a small discount to keep them happy but certainly not 15%.
Posted by: European Conservative   2012-01-13 16:30  

#5  Then again, I hear that supplies are expected to tighten up when the strike starts in Nigeria sometime Sunday.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2012-01-13 12:14  

#4  if the Iranians start selling oil hand-over-fist at a huge discount, the rest of OPEC is going to have to follow... How much oil can be pulled 'out of the ground' is limited. When their exports max out, no further effect on world prices will be noticed.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2012-01-13 11:18  

#3  Iran still has to import a large % of refined oil and petroleum products at the current high prices. That trade deficit will continue to grow and with their weakening Rial v the dollar, the screws are tightening
Posted by: Frank G   2012-01-13 11:07  

#2  ...I am trying to remember the exact numbers, but supposedly Iranian oil would be in the black all the way down to about $25/bbl. Think about it for just a second - if the Iranians start selling oil hand-over-fist at a huge discount, the rest of OPEC is going to have to follow...

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2012-01-13 08:54  

#1  "This isn't about Beijing trying to be a good actor. The Chinese are trying to get a better price on what is now a distressed asset."

LOL. So true, so true.
Posted by: gromky   2012-01-13 03:03  

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