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| Muslim Brotherhood: Hamas is our role model | |||
| 2011-12-28 | |||
Gazoo's Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, premier was in Egypt Monday on his first trip outside the blockaded territory since the Islamists overran it in 2007, saying his meeting with his Islamic ideological mentors threatens Israel.
...became Prime Minister after the legislative elections of 2006 which Hamas won. President Mahmoud Abbas dismissed Haniyeh from office on 14 June 2007 at the height of the Fatah-Hamas festivities, but Haniyeh did not acknowledge the decree and continues as the PM of Gazoo while Abbas maintains a separate PM in the West Bank... discussed Mideast politics with the leader of Egypt's Moslem Brüderbund, which has emerged as the biggest winner in the first parliamentary elections in post-uprising Egypt, capturing nearly half of the seats so far. Hamas is considered an  Brotherhood leader Mohammed Badie met Haniyeh at the group's newly inaugurated headquarters in a Cairo suburb.  "The Brotherhood center has always embraced issues of liberation, foremost the Paleostinian issue," Badie said, according to Egypt's state Middle East News Agency.
 The Brotherhood renounced violence in the 1970s, but it supports Hamas in its "resistance" against Israel.  Hamas is considered a terror group by Israel, the US and EU, killing hundreds of Israelis in attacks, including suicide kabooms. The West insists that before it deals with Hamas, the group must renounce violence, recognize Israel and accept existing peace accords. Hamas has refused.  Haniyeh described Hamas as the "jihadi movement of the Brotherhood with a Paleostinian face." He said his visit to the Brotherhood center would confuse and frighten Israel.  "Our presence with the Brotherhood threatens the Israeli entity," Haniyeh said according to MENA. Israel has expressed concern ...meaning the brow was mildly wrinkled, the eyebrows drawn slightly together, and a thoughtful expression assumed, not that anything was actually done or indeed that any thought was actually expended... that a new Egyptian government under Islamist influence might cancel Egypt's 1979 peace treaty with Israel.  Hamas took Gazoo by force in a brief, bloody civil war in 2007, expelling forces of the rival Fatah, led by Paleostinian President the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas ... a graduate of the prestigious unaccredited Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow with a doctorate in Holocaust Denial... . Israel and Egypt responded by blockading Gazoo. Badie criticized the blockade during his meeting with Haniyeh, according to MENA.  Egypt has been heading efforts to reconcile the two rivals. They came to some agreements last week in talks in Cairo. Hamas was represented by its supreme leader, Khaled Mashaal, who is based in Damascus ...Home to a staggering array of terrorist organizations... .  Haniyeh said during his visit to the Arab League ...an organization of Arabic-speaking states with 22 member countries and four observers. The League tries to achieve Arab consensus on issues, which usually leaves them doing nothing but a bit of grimacing and mustache cursing... that reconciliation with Fatah is a "strategic" matter that should not be hindered by American and Israeli objections. Israel has said the closer Fatah gets to Hamas, the further it moves from a peace deal. | |||
| Posted by:trailing wife |
| #5 Some Copts could live under the benign overlordship of the nation of the Jews. Some, including the Coptic pope, Shenouda III, could not. Anonymoose, Israel has already offered refuge and a world headquarters to the Baha'i in Haifa. Relatedly, there are six million Jews in Israel, of a population already 23% Arab. There are approximately eight million Copts in Egypt. If half of them, or a quarter, took up the Israeli offer you suggest, for how long would the character of the country remain Jewish? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2011-12-28 17:03 |
| #4 CF, sounds like opportunity to me. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2011-12-28 14:27 |
| #3 The Copts would have to build from scratch - you know the Paleos wouldn't leave one brick on another for them. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2011-12-28 13:36 |
| #2 I like the idea of an exchange: all of the Gaza 'Paleos' (or whatever Newt calls 'em) are sent to Egypt; all the Copts in Egypt move to Gaza. Gaza would be crowded but in a generation it would be the Hong Kong of the Mediterranean. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2011-12-28 12:00 |
| #1 I think that Israel should make a quiet deal with the Egyptian military, before these individuals are in power. That is, in exchange for sending an s-load of Paleos permanently to Egypt, allow a bunch of the Copts to emigrate to the Negev desert. The Negev is pretty empty, except for small bands of Bedouins, and by having a place for them to go outside of Egypt will take a lot of pressure off them. The Copts will have a chance at prosperity and religious freedom, and can provide a lot of inexpensive labor the Paleos used to provide Israel. It would also strongly improve Israel's standing among Christian nations, who would likely help a lot with resettlement costs and development. Israel (and quietly the US) could help this deal by offering the Egyptian junta money to accept a lot of Gazans. A couple hundred million dollars would still, for a while at least, be chump change for getting rid of Hamas and 1.6m Paleos. Granted, Israel couldn't take all 8.2m Copts, but a lot of them would prefer to take their chances in Egypt. The end result would be a Gaza Strip full of Copts, again part of Israel, and a bunch of Christians in the Negev, displacing the Arabs there. In turn, the Egyptian Salafists could turn their hate against other Egyptian Muslims. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2011-12-28 10:07 |