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India-Pakistan
Clinton wants Mullah Omar in peace talks
2011-10-29
[Dawn] US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
... sometimes described as The Liberatress of Libya and at other times as Mrs. Bill, never as Another Al Haig ...
told a congressional panel on Thursday that any Afghan-led grinding of the peace processor would have to include the Quetta Shura and its leader Mullah Omar.
... a minor Pashtun commander in the war against the Soviets who made good as leader of the Taliban. As ruler of Afghanistan, he took the title Leader of the Faithful. The imposition of Pashtunkhwa on the nation institutionalized ignorance and brutality already notable for its own fair share of ignorance and brutality...
Her statement before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs also emphasised several other key points reflecting a major change in US approach towards seeking a peaceful end to the Afghan conflict. "There is no solution in the region without Pakistain and no stable future in the region without a partnership."

The US needs to negotiate with the Haqqani network while continuing to work with Pakistain to destroy the safe havens it has inside Fata.

The US aid to Pakistain should not be conditioned to disbanding Lashkar-i-Taiba. And the "real game-changer in the region" would be a stronger relationship between Pakistain and India.

Her statement indicated that the new US approach had evolved further after Secretary Clinton's visit to Afghanistan and Pakistain last week where she discussed this strategy with the leaders of those two countries as well.

After the visit, she told the US media that the United States and Pakistain had reached 90-95 per cent agreement on the issues that at one stage appeared close to breaking up their relationship.

The politicians, who still seem upset with Pakistain over its alleged links to the jihad boys, created several opportunities for the secretary to browbeat Pakistain but she refrained from doing so.

Congressman Steve Chabot, a Republican, asked Secretary Clinton if the US was prepared to negotiate with Mulla Omar. "And if so, under what circumstances and what would our conditions be?" he asked.

"Well, Congressman, the negotiations that would be part of any Afghan-led grinding of the peace processor would have to include the Quetta Shura and would have to include some recognition by the Quetta Shura which, based on everything we know, is still led by Mulla Omar, that they wish to participate in such a process," she responded. "We are pursuing every thread of any kind of interest expressed."

Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the panel's chairperson, questioned the wisdom of engaging the Haqqani network while it continued to attack US soldiers in Afghanistan. "What's the US strategy, crackdown or negotiate with the Haqqani network or a little bit of both," she asked.

"It's both," said Secretary Clinton.

Later, while responding to Congressman Chabot, she said the US agreed to meet the Haqqani network because that the ISI had asked them to do so.

"This was done in part because I think the Paks hope to be able to move the Haqqani network towards some kind of peace negotiation and the answer was an attack on our embassy" in Kabul.

The US still wanted to stay engaged with the Haqqani network to test whether these organizations had any willingness to negotiate in good faith, she told Congresswoman Ros-Lehtinen.

"There is evidence going both ways, to be clear. Sometimes we hear that they will, that there are elements within each that wish to pursue that, and then other times that it's off the table." she added.

Secretary Clinton noted that only last week the US had launched a major military operation in Afghanistan that rounded up and eliminated more than 100 Haqqani network operatives. "And we are taking action to target the Haqqani leadership on both sides of the border," she said. "We are already working with the Paks to target those who are behind a lot of the attacks against Afghans and Americans."

Congresswoman Ros-Lehtinen asked Secretary Clinton to comment on a recent statement by Afghanistan's Caped President Hamid Maybe I'll join the Taliban Karzai
... A former Baltimore restaurateur, now 12th and current President of Afghanistan, displacing the legitimate president Rabbani in December 2004. He was installed as the dominant political figure after the removal of the Taliban regime in late 2001 in a vain attempt to put a Pashtun face on the successor state to the Taliban. After the 2004 presidential election, he was declared president regardless of what the actual vote count was. He won a second, even more dubious, five-year-term after the 2009 presidential election. His grip on reality has been slipping steadily since around 2007, probably from heavy drug use...
that if there was war between Pakistain and America, he would side with Pakistain.

Secretary Clinton said that as soon as she heard this statement, she asked the US ambassador in Kabul to figure out what the hell Mr Karzai meant and the ambassador reported back that Mr Karzai was on drugs again talking about the long history of cooperation between Afghanistan and Pakistain, in particular the refuge that Pakistain provided to millions of Afghans during the Soviet occupation.

"This was not at all about a war that anybody was predicting," she said. Responding to a question about recent remarks by US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta
...current SecDef, previously Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Panetta served as President Bill Clinton's White House Chief of Staff from 1994 to 1997 and was a member of the United States House of Representatives from 1977 to 1993....
and former military chief Admiral Mike Mullen, who blamed Pakistain for continuing to support the jihad boys, Secretary Clinton said that neither Mr Panetta nor Admiral Mullen ever questioned the need to stay engaged with Pakistain.

She said that everyone in the US administration believed that the Haqqanis had safe havens inside Pakistain and used these hideouts for attacking US and Afghan soldiers.

"And we also agree, however, ... that there is no solution in the region without Pakistain and no stable future in the region without a partnership."

Congressman Ed Royce, another Republican, reminded her that another congressional panel had asked the B.O. regime to condition US assistance to Pakistain to shutting down the LeT and asked her if she was willing to do so.

"We have had intensive discussions with our Indian counterparts" on the LeT and on the attacks it allegedly carried out in India. But "I do not want to commit at this time to taking such a path because I think it's important that there be further consideration of all of the implications," Secretary Clinton said.

"Certainly, every time we meet with the Paks, we press them on the LeT about the continuing failure, in our view, to fulfil all of the requirements necessary for prosecution related to the Mumbai attacks and we will continue to do so," she said.

Secretary Clinton said that like the congressman, she too worried about the possibility that LeT attacks inside India could trigger yet another war between India and Pakistain. "And we discuss it in great depth with our Indian counterparts, because it is, first and foremost, a concern of theirs. It is obviously also concerning to us."

Congressman Joe Wilson, also a Republican, noted that Pakistain was developing a most-favoured nation trade status with India and asked what the US could do to promote a level of trade and positive contact between India and Pakistain.

"Well, Congressman, I agree with you that the real game-changer in the region is not so much our bilateral relationship as the relationship between Pakistain and India. And the more that there can be progress, the more likely there can be even more progress," the secretary said.

"So we have in Pakistain today a leadership, both civilian and military, that wants to see progress with India, and we have the same on the Indian side."
Posted by:Fred

#5  We have already seen the consequences of a political solution/grand bargain in Libya.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein

Even if a 'Peace Process' that included the Taliban could bring peace, stability and some prosperity to Afghanistan, there's still the matter of 9/11.

The Taliban and Mullah Omar would end up with a big reward. Success in Afghanistan as defined by the Obama administration is actually a humiliating and dangerous defeat for the US.
Right now, precipitous withdrawal would do far less damage to vital western interests.

Nuts!
Posted by: Blinky Brown9417   2011-10-29 08:24  

#4  The Liberatress of Libya

Liberatrix, surely?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2011-10-29 05:26  

#3  I've always wanted Mullah Omar in pieces, myself.
Posted by: Secret Master   2011-10-29 02:10  

#2  Since OSAMA is officially "dead", it seems only proper that his self-proclaimed favorite MTV Babe WHITNEY HUSTON be invited to the talks.

Lest we fergit, WHITNEY was a 1960's-1970's GUAM TAOTAMONA BABE too ya know, besides Madonna.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-10-29 01:16  

#1  IMO, its kinda moot without AYAMAN + others that I remember.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-10-29 00:36  

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