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Africa North
Libyan rebels capture chem weapons site
2011-09-22
oh goodie
Libya's interim rulers said on Wednesday they had captured one of Col Muammar Gaddafi's last strongholds deep in the Sahara desert, finding chemical weapons, and largely taken control of another.
Was that a real chem weapons plant or just a plant that produced pesticides. You know, for all the farms out there in the interior of Libya. In the Sahara...
Ants. They've got lots and lots of ants in the desert. Also scorpions and spiders. So they'd need tons of the stuff -- it's a big desert, you know, and one just can't be worrying about sitting on an ant hill or finding a scorpion in one's boots in the morning.
With the National Transitional Council (NTC) struggling to assert full control over the country, military spokesmen said its forces had seized the outpost of Jufra 435 miles southeast of Tripoli, and most of Sabha.

"The whole of the Jufra area -- we have been told it has been liberated," said Fathi Bashaagha, NTC spokesman, in Misurata. "There was a depot of chemical weapons and now it is under the control of our fighters."

His comments could not be confirmed independently.

Under Gaddafi, Libya was supposed to have destroyed its stockpile of chemical weapons in early 2004 as part of a rapprochement with the West under which it also abandoned a nuclear programme.
Cheez, you mean an evil, thuggish brute of a dictator .. lied to us?
However, the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons says Libya kept 9.5 tonnes of mustard gas at a secret desert location, although it could no longer deliver it.
Posted by:lotp

#7  Ghaddafi lost delivery capability for much of his chem weapons, but retained the materials, either to rebuild later or to trade.
Posted by: lotp   2011-09-22 19:16  

#6  Because chemical weapons are kind of useless in most tactical situations, and it just would have worsened his international profile? Not to mention that he'd probably lose as many poorly-protected footsoldiers and possibly-sympathetic civilian supporters as any enemy combatants or enemy sympathizers?

Might have been a logistical issue as well - between shipping some old mustard gas and shipping food, gold, or ammunition, which seems like the better investment of truckspace? Heck, the people who remembered what was where might have even taken off before somebody thought of pulling the trigger.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2011-09-22 13:44  

#5  So if it was a WMD depot, why didn't he use the weapons against the rebels?
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2011-09-22 11:28  

#4  Uh, were you being sarcastic about the farms in the Libyan interior? If you look at the satellite imagery, there's a significant number of irrigation pivot farms out there, run off of Libya's vast fossil water resources.

I wouldn't imagine that Libya would need pesticide plants, unless the EU interdicted sale of precursor chemicals to an outlaw country with a reputation for wild misbehavior and an appetite for WMD...

In other words, doesn't need to be one thing or the other - embrace the healing power of "and".
Posted by: Mitch H.   2011-09-22 10:54  

#3  I couldn't understand the motivation for the NATO action in Libya; if the WMD programs were discovered to have increased activity it makes more sense.
Posted by: Glenmore   2011-09-22 07:25  

#2  No surprise here.

This story was even more serious as it was about HEU.

Nonetheless Bush's Gaddafi deal was largely immune from serious criticism. The right didn't want to challenge one of the Bush administration's few undisputed success stories.

And since Bush followed the leftist template of diplomacy/political solution/grand bargain/reconciliation he wasn't criticized by the Democrats either.
Posted by: Percy Tojo7636   2011-09-22 06:04  

#1  Was that a real chem weapons plant or just a plant that produced pesticides.

Plenty of two (sometimes less) legged vermin in that part of the world...
Posted by: Glenmore   2011-09-22 05:56  

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