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India-Pakistan
Religious tolerance in Pakistan
2011-08-16
[Dawn] Imagine first the bustling streets of Anarkali in Lahore or Qissa Khawani Bazaar in Beautiful Downtown Peshawar. Now imagine a Hindu or a Jewish person praying on the roadside. If religious tolerance prevailed in Pakistain, this would be a non-issue as people would simply walk by the praying person.

While I can only speculate how Paks would behave around a non-Mohammedan praying along the street,
There are apparently still some Jewish Pakistanis. However, the ones that remain either pretend to be Muslim or Parsi, or are very, very private about it.
I need not wonder how Americans would react to a Mohammedan praying along the street side.

Just outside the store window in uptown Manhattan (New York), I see a Mohammedan hawker performing his Afternoon (Asr) prayer on the street side at the intersection of 7th-avenue and West 35th street. He sells DVDs and children's books in the heart of Manhattan. As he prays, women in shorts and men wearing T-shirts walk by his kiosk. No spectacle is created, or worse no insults or taunts are hurled.

This display of tolerance is a rather strange concept for Mohammedans to comprehend. How could the US while being involved in armed conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistain, and being instrumental in covert operations in several other Mohammedan majority countries be so tolerant of Mohammedans, allowing them to have mosques and the ability to pray wherever they want.

Just a block away on 7th Avenue, members of a religious cult, comprising mostly of African Americans, were busy ridiculing the most revered figure in Christianity. They had caricatured Jesus' image as a demon on a poster lying on the ground. While wearing strange-looking garbs they were trying to provoke others in a shouting march about faith.

Almost all Americans and tourists chose not to entertain the blasphemous stupidity of these very misguided youth. There were no shouting matches or attacks on these men who have been performing their provocative act for years near the busiest intersections in New York.

On this trip to New York, I am staying at Condor Hotel, located in the most Jewish part of Brooklyn, which is a borough of New York. The hotel is owned by orthodox Jews and hence it adheres to the strict Jewish religious code of serving only Kosher meals.

Each room in the hotel is equipped with extra amenities to comply with the special needs of the hotel's Jewish guests. For instance, there is a wig stand in each room for women to hang their wigs while they sleep. The orthodox Jewish women are forbidden from revealing their hair to strangers. Hence they wear wigs to hide their own hair; a practice similar to some Mohammedan women who wear hijaab to cover their hair.

The streets around the hotel are filled with orthodox Jewish men wearing their traditional black and white clothes and Jewish women pushing kids in strollers. On the Jewish Sabbath however, i.e. Friday afternoons, the entire neighbourhood is deserted as the Jewish households confine to their homes during the Sabbath that lasts until Saturday evening. Thus all shops are closed; all business is suspended in the Jewish part of Brooklyn.

But that is not the case everywhere in New York. A short train ride away is Manhattan, where streets were bustling with people on Friday night. Way past midnight I walked into a shoe store near the Time Square. Businesses were open, restaurants were serving food, and electronic billboards were flashing larger than life images of models showcasing apparel, while thousands were celebrating in the streets, theatres and restaurants.

Earlier in the afternoon on Friday I visited New York University's Stern School of Business, which is located in downtown Manhattan. I walked by a Church located right next to NYU's campus. The Church's notice board commemorated American casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan. The notice board listed the 4,466 American soldiers who died in Iraq and another 1,643 who died in Afghanistan. Also listed on the Church's notice board were the 110,811 Iraqi civilians who had died since the US invasion of Iraq.

In no ambiguous terms the Church was highlighting the extent of misery and grief that beset the Iraqis. The notice board could have only listed the number of Americans dead and maimed in Iraq. Instead, the Church ensured that those who looked at these statistics also took note of the human toll exacted on the Iraqis resulting from the US invasion.

Could it be that Americans, or at least New Yorkers, don't care about religion and hence, they choose to ignore the blaspheming black youth, very religiously observant Jews, or Mohammedan men praying on the street side. Of course, not everyone is that tolerant in the US, or in New York, for that matter. A few months earlier, some in New York opposed the construction of a new mosque near the former World Trade Center site. However,
facts are stubborn; statistics are more pliable...
the local administration, headed by the Jewish mayor, Michael Nanny Bloomberg, strongly resisted the opposition to the mosque.

Perhaps most Americans understand the virtues of religious tolerance, which is evident when minorities are encouraged to practice their religious beliefs. The same tolerance helps maintain order in the society even when some try to act as irritants; remember the black youth trying to offend and incite Christians in Manhattan? Tolerance is also evident from the presence of thousands of mosques, temples, gurdawaras, and synagogues that punctuate the landscape in urban America.

Exactly 64 years since its independence, Pakistain on the other hand continues to struggle with shaping its identity. It is up to Paks to decide how much or how little religious tolerance may prevail in the society.

Will Pakistain continue to be a country where Sikhs are prevented from praying, Ahmadis and Shias are slaughtered in and en-route to places of worship, where shrines of patron saints are destroyed by jacket wallahs, or where foreign aid workers are kidnapped for ransom. Or will it be a country where religious pluralism, as was envisioned by Jinnah, Pakistain's founding father, would flourish?
Posted by:Fred

#9  FYI DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [PPP + "Q" League call for] NEW PROVINCES WILL BREAK PAKISTAN.

ARTIC = Various proposed new provinces include a new ...
> SERAIKI Province in Punjab.
> BAHAWALPUR Province in Punjab.
> AN UN-NAMED CHRISTIAN PROVINCE in SW Punjab.
International?
> HAZARA Province in Khyber-Paktunhwa.
> KARACHI, HYDERABAD Provinces = separate.

* IIRC SIASAT DAILY [old]> OPED Author believed that PAKISTAN WILL NOT HAVE TRUE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM + DEMOCRACY UNTIL THE DAY A NON-MUSLIM CAN FREELY PROSELYTYZE IN THE STREETS OF ISLAMABAD + OTHER PAK CITIES-TOWNS, + CAN CRITICIZE OR DENOUNCE [obscenely?] ISLAM + MOHAMMED WIDOUT GETTING ARRESTED, IMPRISONED, ABUSED OR EXECUTED, ETC.???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-08-16 23:11  

#8  "Where are you getting your data?"

From an oriface in the nether regions, tw.
Posted by: Barbara   2011-08-16 18:27  

#7  Or will it be a country where religious pluralism, as was envisioned by Jinnah, Pakistain's founding father, would flourish?

Nonsense. The land of the pure was never intended for other faiths.
Posted by: john frum   2011-08-16 18:13  

#6  B***sh*** the gift that keeps on giving...
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2011-08-16 15:46  

#5  "This display of tolerance is a rather strange conceptfor Mohammedans to comprehend"

Gotta say it again...'pot' meet 'kettle'...

Bushites...the gift that keeps on giving...
Posted by: Shakey Steve   2011-08-16 14:56  

#4  He/she would shoot first, ask questions later...

Which is why so many dead Mohammedans are reported found at the side of the road throughout America. Where are you getting your data?
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-08-16 14:51  

#3  "I need not wonder how Americans would react to a Mohammedan praying along the street side"

He/she would shoot first, ask questions later...
Posted by: Shakey Steve   2011-08-16 14:23  

#2  This display of tolerance is a rather strange concept for Mohammedans to comprehend. Islamists would not recognize that behavior as tolerant or strange, but merely an appropriate response from infidels and/or condemned apostates awaiting their just fates at a time to be decreed by Allah.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2011-08-16 14:03  

#1  I strongly defend the use of the term "Mohammadan." The word "Islam" follows Mohammadan immigration and formation of pressure groups. In the 19th century, it was used to describe the fact that "submission" - to the cause of "allah" - was central to the life of an emulator of the cult's false-prophet.

Use of "islam" means: acceptance of cult dogma that Mohammadanism preceded the life of the demon possessed pedophile who founded their perversity. In fact, Abraham is taken as the founder of the cult, and Jewish and Christian scriptures are believed to be "satanic distortions." References to the "people of the book,' (ahl-kitab) means: Jews and Christians are really "muslims." That is why they refer to conversions as "reversions."

The "satanic verse" episode - where the pedophile sang "quran" sura only to repudiate same, after losing followers - illustrates the concoction that "satan" can possess "prophets."

Try to give a New Testament to a slave-of-allah (Mohammad's fabrication). They will accept it only to cover up "people of the book" fictions.

Why does Obama get Mohammadan support? He serves their ends, as far as he can within Congress' Statutory imposed constraints. Born from the seed of a no account Mohammadan child abandoner, BHO is - in all 4 major schools of the cult - inherently Mohammadan. Obviously, they like his work. If he didn't, cultists bear an absolute obligation to exterminate "abandoners." They love him. And he bows, as leader of his country, to their tyrants.
Posted by: Caesar Shatle4190   2011-08-16 01:52  

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