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India-Pakistan
Army vows to fight using own resources
2011-07-13
[Pak Daily Times] The country's top military commanders, on Tuesday, reiterated the resolve to fighting the menace of terrorism in national interest using "our own resources".

The reaffirmation of the decision came during the 140th Corps Commanders' Conference at the General Headquarters. The military had, on Monday, said it could do without US assistance by depending on its own resources.

During the conference, which was chaired by Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani
... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI...
, the highest military forum was briefed in detail about the security situation in the country in general and ongoing operations in Kurram and Mohmand
... Named for the Mohmand clan of the Sarban Pahstuns, a truculent, quarrelsome lot. In Pakistain, the Mohmands infest their eponymous Agency, metastasizing as far as the plains of Beautiful Downtown Peshawar, Charsadda, and Mardan. Mohmands are also scattered throughout Pakistan in urban areas including Karachi, Lahore, and Quetta. In Afghanistan they are mainly found in Nangarhar and Kunar...
tribal areas in particular. Matters of operational preparedness were also discussed.

As the relations between the United States and Pakistain have been on the downward spiral after the unilateral American raid that killed the late Osama bin Laden
... who no longer has to waste time and energy breathing...
in Abbottabad without informing Islamabad beforehand, Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar in a televised interview on Tuesday threatened to pull back troops from the Afghan border in response to US aid cuts.

"If Americans refuse to give us money, then okay. I think the next step is, the government or the armed forces will move the soldiers from the border areas," Mukhtar said, adding, "If at all things become difficult, we will just get our armed forces back."

"We cannot afford to keep our military... it costs you extra amount of money when you are having soldiers in the mountains, so we will definitely use that tool."

Mukhtar later told Rooters that Pakistain wanted the money spent on the maintenance of its army in the Tribal Areas. "This is what we are demanding," he said. "It is our own money."

Although Mukhtar has previously made statements that did not come to fruition, his remarks are significant at a time when public relations between Islamabad and Washington are at an all-time low since the war on terror began.

At the corps commanders' conference, General Kayani appreciated the conduct of the ongoing military operations and the support of locals in flushing out beturbanned goons from their area.

Referring to Mohmand Agency, he instructed that all efforts must be utilised in coordination with the civil administration for safe return of internally displaced persons (IDPs).

Kayani said that the aim of the operation in Kurram Agency
...home of an intricately interconnected web of poverty, ignorance, and religious fanaticism, where the laws of cause and effect are assumed to be suspended, conveniently located adjacent to Tora Bora...
was to clear the area of myrmidons involved in terrorism, kidnapping, killing of locals and the blocking of a road connecting Lower Kurram with Upper Kurram.

The US had, on Sunday, confirmed that it had decided to withhold a third of its annual $2.7 billion security assistance to Islamabad, bringing relations to a new low. Cuts of $800 million reportedly include about $300 million used to reimburse Pakistain for some costs of deploying more than 100,000 soldiers along the Afghan border.
Posted by:Fred

#6  Sounds good, except for that Shia-Sunni exterminate each other thing.

One step at a time, Eohippus Phater7165. First they defeat their joint enemies, then they can turn on one another at leisure. After all, Turkey is currently Iran's other bestest friend ever.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-07-13 18:53  

#5  "Sounds good, except for that Shia-Sunni exterminate each other thing."

You're right, EP - that does sound good.
Posted by: Barbara   2011-07-13 18:18  

#4  Iran/Pak alliance

Sounds good, except for that Shia-Sunni exterminate each other thing.
Posted by: Eohippus Phater7165   2011-07-13 16:56  

#3  Leftists/Collectivists do just fine starting wars for national unity; in fact I'd call it SOP for stage 3 collectivism - the whisker being the EU but could count Balkins, now Libya.

Agree an official Iran/Pak alliance would grab the attention of S.A., India, Iraq. Probably why it is not official. Yes, plenty of local US targets just gonna guess that the military folks are on top of that; but hey we apparently traded east Europe missile defense for a promised train ride from the Russians, what firmer bedrock for policy could there be than that?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2011-07-13 12:23  

#2   A big war would create a lot of jobs. And NATIONAL SURVIVAL ( fighting for your very life) does tend to unite a country in a spectacular way.
The Left would open its mouth and then disappear as fast as the Bund ( does anyone remember the Bund? No? ) That's what happens to some people.

If Iran and Pakistan united in a Nuclear alliance... they would over reach in very short order. They would actually push it. And then there might be a big surprise...we can reach farther than they can. We can hit them where they cant hit us. They can throw a nuke at Saudi Arabia, say, or hit an American Carrier.
And our response? These things escalate very fast once they start. Is war such a bad idea? Wars DO settle things. Sometimes WAR IS THE ANSWER. If you win a war even if millions die in it, as long as most of the dead are Moslems and its largely fought in THEIR yard...and FINISHED in their yard. Smoking holes finished and entire nations obliterated. We CAN do that...they dont have the ability, not yet, and it will be a generation before they do match our reach and our kill capacity.

There is no nice way to win a war. And there is absolutely NO future in losing one. Pre-emptive attack is not a bad idea. Aggression is not a bad idea if you MEAN BUSINESS. Remember that scene in The Unforgiven when William Muney ( Clint Eastwood) said he was coming out of that saloon in the rain at the end of the film? Think about it. "Anybody shoots at me, I will kill them, I will kill their family and then I will kill all their friends." He meant it. Hold that thought.

Killing people is what Wars do. General are not Professors ( get rid of those ) and use your military power ruthlessly and efficiently. Take THEIR resources. Take their Gold Reserves. Take their mommas and their dog too. Dont "occupy" them, dont rebuild them. Cook them. Hand of God every son of a bitch who can squeal.

Win IT!

And nobody will curse your name or complain because they will all never write a single history book.
WE already HAVE that kind of Power, now. What we dont have is the WILL to win. If you are too soft to fight, you deserve what happens to your little girl.

I think we will have to fight sooner or later. Give it thirty years?
Dont lie to yourself about Human nature, yours or theirs. We live on blood, the human race always has. History is one long endless litany of blood. REALITY is being willing to pull the trigger if the bugger so much as moves. You think I sound crazy? You know what Harold McMillan said?
yeah? Now there was a ( very very stupid) crazy son of a bitch.
Posted by: de Medici   2011-07-13 06:36  

#1  Read, Pak "Big Brother" + BFF CHINA.

This will not end well, for either the US or China, as China = Russia = its better for their interests to have the US-NATO in AFPAK fighting the Militants than other.

Many Bloggers correctly believe that the rise of LEON PANETTA = US PREPPING TO MILPOL ESCALATE AGZ NUKE-HAPPY IRAN, but as per POLITICAL JIHAD a break in US-PAK relations will likely result in an increased Islamist influence in the Pak Govt, iff not ourright dominance of same, which in turn may ultimately lead to an alignment of already Nuke-armed Pakistan [China?] wid Iran agz the US, + sovereign rapid transfer of Pak Nuctechs to SYRIA or other anti-US Muslim Govts-States???

ISLAMIST DOMINOES.

Instead of US-VS-IRAN only, it will be US-VS-ISLAMIST-NUCLEAR-ALLIANCE???

Iff the MilTerr Groups aren't inspired now, they will be then.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-07-13 00:24  

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