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| Obama Sides With Palestinians/Hamas/PLO -- back to 1967 lines |
| 2011-05-19 |
| WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama is endorsing the Palestinians' demand for their future state to be based on the borders that existed before the 1967 Middle East war, in a move that will likely infuriate Israel. |
| Posted by:Omans Ometle2604 |
| #27 SteveS, I adore you! The Israelis call the 1949 Armistice/pre-Six Day War borders "the Auschwitz borders". In case anyone here needs to put the concept in starkly clear terms beyond this website. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2011-05-20 00:01 |
| #26 Being an American, I am, of course, completely ignorant of both history and current events, but didn't those guys fight a war or something and get their collective asses kicked? I do remember some guy named Mamoud or Yassir writing in to Miss Manners in the Daily Fishwrap and saying "We started a war against our neighbors and got beaten like a rented mule. Now they have a bunch of our land and refuse to give it back. We don't speak to them or even acknowledge their existence, but we want our land back. What can we do?" Miss Manners replied, quite succinctly as I recall, "Suck it up, biotches. You lost. Losers do not get a say in how the spoils of war are divvied up. And next time, try to remember that civilized people don't make unprovoked war on their neighbors." |
| Posted by: SteveS 2011-05-19 23:04 |
| #25 Sad. Sometimes losing doubts is not comforting. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2011-05-19 22:49 |
| #24 The pre 67 borders are not defendable, which is why the Isrealis were so quick off the start in 67. Bad intel from the US told them the Syrians were massing in the golan. Anybody else ever launch a pre-emtive war, oh we did in Iraq. The Isrealis did abandon the Siani and Gaza. These so called Palistinians are Jordanise and need to go home, but Jordan doesn't want them. |
| Posted by: retired LEO 2011-05-19 22:37 |
| #23 This is near the end of a long list of Comments. I will make mine brief. In a war somebody wins and somebody loses. When you cock the pistol the next step is to pull the trigger. What is it that you truly believe in? Where is your heart firm? Whom do you serve? What are you willing to die for? How far are you willing to go? Obama is not your friend. |
| Posted by: de Medici3489 2011-05-19 22:18 |
| #22 I think as an America we shouldn't be choosing sides but help them find a middle ground. Yeah I know, radical idea. Not if you graduated from an Ivy League school. Or work for the State Department. Or live in the environs of the Beltway. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2011-05-19 21:57 |
| #21 So, like the Russians are up to return Prussia and Poland return Silesia to Germany? Wars have consequences. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2011-05-19 21:43 |
| #20 Rovian, you are assuming he wants what we want. He really wants the partial (or total) destruction of the US and Israel. Ask his friends. If people would just stop assuming he wants what we want he becomes pretty predictable. |
| Posted by: Hellfish 2011-05-19 21:31 |
| #19 Unfortunately, Griting, the paleos' (& Arabs') idea of a "middle ground" is killing all the Joooooooos. I don't think Bambi has a problem with that |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2011-05-19 21:24 |
| #18 Fatah just joined hands with Hamas and Obama pulls this garbage? Does he know which is the carrot and which is the stick? Unbelievable |
| Posted by: dk70 the scantily clad 2011-05-19 21:20 |
| #17 1967 was a pre-emptive strike that the US didn't want and the evidence that Egypt was about to attack are exaggerated. I think bad intelligence on both sides (Egypt and Israel) plus provocation by the USSR was the reason for this 4+ decade conflict. Add 4 decades of propaganda on top of that. The 1967 borders cut Israel in 1/2, which I can understand why they don't like this idea but I can also understand why the Arabs got pissed. I think as an America we shouldn't be choosing sides but help them find a middle ground. Yeah I know, radical idea. |
| Posted by: Griting Smith6978 2011-05-19 20:31 |
| #16 " his goal is to destroy America - or at least to reduce it down to a third world nation status." I doubt he ever plans to leave control. He would probably be more like Hugo Chavez if he is let to be so. Lock down the Nation in SOE and call off elections. I may sound like a kook, but this guy has the same impulses as a banana republic dictator. He really does not give a damn about this country. |
| Posted by: newc 2011-05-19 20:13 |
| #15 Somehow, everything he does is 180 degrees off from the corrent choice. It all depends on what your goals are. Most people assume that Obumbles goals is to defend and protect America and advance her interest. That could not be further from the truth. His actions suggest very strongly that his goal is to destroy America - or at least to reduce it down to a third world nation status. His actions on the economy, out-of-control spending, pissing on our allies while bowing to our enemies suggest this. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2011-05-19 20:02 |
| #14 #2Â Â Jews Turn Against Obama And this was before the speech. Sure was. 2010, to be precise. It's worse now, I imagine. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2011-05-19 19:41 |
| #13 Resign, you little slimy worm. |
| Posted by: Angeresh Munster2206 2011-05-19 19:26 |
| #12 He's simply changed sides formally. We knew he was on the other side before this. |
| Posted by: Fred 2011-05-19 18:28 |
| #11 I have a bad back and a terrible migraine from this speech. I fell out of my chair at the call to return to 1967 and the rest of the speech gave me a migraine. Some how, when I hear something that irrational, my logic processes rebel. At least Obambi didn't ask Bebe to check the oil while he was under the bus.... Freaking Golan Heights are absolutely essential to self defense of Syria. And we all know how well a divided city of Jerusalem worked...teh jews will never ever ever not ever give up access to the "Wailing wall" at the Herodic Temple. This masterful piece of diplomatic peace making is essentially a guarantee of war in the middle east in the very near future. Not to sound like a fanatic, but I am beginning to look for the "666" tattoo on Obambi's forehead. |
| Posted by: Bill Clinton 2011-05-19 18:23 |
| #10 Sherry, what the President should have said. West is sounding presidential. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2011-05-19 18:06 |
| #9 Congressman Allen West Response to President Barack Obama's Call for a Two State Solution in Israel |
| Posted by: Sherry 2011-05-19 17:48 |
| #8 "Somehow, everything he does is 180 degrees off from the corrent choice. How does he do that?" Because he walks contrary. Bibi announced the building of 620 new settlements during that very speech :) Israel always makes me happy - HOOAH! |
| Posted by: newc 2011-05-19 17:16 |
| #7 Yes they did win! Spoils of war.... or dont super bleeding hearts realize that its WAR that ultimately decides borders. the israelis will just tell him to FO anyway |
| Posted by: 746 2011-05-19 16:39 |
| #6 'corrent'=correct. Yeesh. |
| Posted by: Rovian Disciple 2011-05-19 16:28 |
| #5 He should announce that Israel will never give them up because, to quote an American President, "We Won!". |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2011-05-19 16:28 |
| #4 Somehow, everything he does is 180 degrees off from the corrent choice. How does he do that? |
| Posted by: Rovian Disciple 2011-05-19 16:27 |
| #3 Really? You stupid fuck. Israel will never commit to that since it would give up all the defensive land and the Golon Heights and allow the arabs to rain artillery and rockets down even more and with greater accuracy than before. Now, Israel will look like even more the bad guy since they are saying now. Good job cutting the legs out from one of our allies, dipshit. You just declared open season on the jews in the Middle East. Fuck you Obama. Fuck you. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2011-05-19 16:23 |
| #2 Jews Turn Against Obama And this was before the speech. |
| Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC 2011-05-19 16:01 |
| #1 Netanyahu should make the meeting tomorrow interesting. He should insist on all lands acquired as a result of the 1967 and 1973 wars as a starting point for any negotiations. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2011-05-19 15:52 |