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Did China Win the War on Terror?
2011-05-15
h/t New Zeal
...perhaps the only country in the world that has benefited from the last decade of war against al-Qaeda is China, and it has benefitted big time. Beijing has watched the United States spend more than $3 trillion on the war on terrorism, devote its military resources to the Middle East, and neglect pretty much every other part of the globe (except where al-Qaeda and its friends hang out). The United States is now mired in debt, stuck in a recession, and paralyzed by partisan politics.

Over that same period, meanwhile, China has quickly become the second largest economy in the world. In 2001, Goldman Sachs predicted that the Chinese economy would rival that of Germany by 2011. Boy, was that a lowball estimate. Last month, the International Monetary Fund looked again into the crystal ball and announced that the Chinese economy would become the world's largest in 2016.

China's overtaking of the United States "will effectively end the 'Age of America' a decade before most analysts had expected," writes David Gardner in the British Daily Mail. "It means that whoever wins the 2012 presidential election will have the dubious honor of presiding over the fall of the United States."

Memo from Beijing: Mission Accomplished!

Naturally, since this is no movie, it's not so cut and dried. As demonstrated by its huge investments into this country – including $45 billion worth of deals back in January – China doesn't want a bankrupt United States. Indeed, U.S. budget deficits and low interest rates have fueled global inflation, driving up food prices and creating precisely the kind of instability that makes China uncomfortable. Beijing needs American consumers, the relative security of American bonds, and the occasional stability provided by American troops. But remember: all of that can be provided by the world's second leading economy and number one military spender.
Posted by:g(r)omgoru

#9  In 2001, I was banned from "littlegreenfootballs," after I posted that "nuclear arms are cost-effective" and that Pashtun-Afghanistan should be "made to look like the Moon." And that Pakistan's Pashtuns would make any intervention "unwinnable," because of the advantage of "harborage." The Pentagon's youtube channel includes a West Point speech by Robt Gates in which he says that any future US President who ordered a "large land army" into Asia, "should have his head examined." As I write, the "pakistandefence" forum includes a thread where US "allies" advocate massive use of snipers against US troops in Afghanistan, as a means to end US theater activity.

How can the insanity of deranged triumphalism ("mission accomplished") be capped, and we at long last turn Kandaher into dust? Does "values" sewage still pollute minds? Again: nuclear arms are cost effective.
Posted by: Spique Hatfield8822   2011-05-15 23:01  

#8  IPS is a far-left think tank affiliated with the Nation magazine. Wikipedia has a few interesting tidbits on this organization:

Harvey Klehr, professor of politics and history at Emory University, in his 1988 book Far Left of Center: The American Radical Left Today said that IPS "serves as an intellectual nerve center for the radical movement, ranging from nuclear and anti-intervention issues to support for Marxist insurgencies."[19] Joshua Muravchik has also accused the institute of communophilism.[20] while Emerson Vermatt has accused the think-tank of "its bitter opposition to the intelligence community, notably the CIA."[3] Furthermore, it has been accused by the FBI as a "think factory" that helps to "train extremists who incite violence in U.S. cities, and whose educational research serves as a cover for intrigue, an political agitation."[21]

In 1974, the Institute created an 'Organizing Committee for the Fifth Estate' as part of its "Center for National Security Studies" which published (and still publishes) the magazine CounterSpy. CounterSpy has in turn been the subject of scrutiny by officials and intelligence agencies, who claim that the magazine's "driving force"[22] was ex-CIA agent and alleged Cuban/KGB agent[23][24][25] Philip Agee and accused by US President George H.W. Bush[26] and others[27] of leading to the murder of the then CIA Station Chief in Greece, Richard S. Welch.

In his book The KGB and Soviet disinformation: an insider's view Ladislav Bittman, a former StB agent who worked in misinformation operations such as the IPS, covered the IPS's role in the Soviet intelligence network. It should be noted that not all of IPS fellows were on intelligence agency payroll and not every publication originated from the KGB.[28][29] Brian Crozier, director of the London-based Institute for the Study of Conflict, described IPS as the "perfect intellectual front for Soviet activities which would be resisted if they were to originate openly from the KGB."[30]
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2011-05-15 22:52  

#7  As for CHINA + GWOT, it + US-World are dealing wid Extremists most of whom long ago chose to accept violent death iff ambitions + agendums cannot be achieved, including but not limited to mutual/universal destuction i.e. "TAKING THE
WORLD WID THEM". THE JIHAD TAINT OVER JUST BECUZ OSAMA PER SE GOT WHACKED.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-05-15 22:50  

#6  Compare wid WAFF > BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP:USA = NEXT [low-cost]"SWEATSHOP" NATION!? |REINVESTMENT DURING THE NEXT FIVE YEARS COULD USHER IN A NEW RENNAISANCE WHERE THE US BECOMES THE WORLD'S LARGEST LOW-COST COUNTRY AMONG DEVELOPED NATIONS.

Uh, uh, YEAH - USA, USA, USA ...???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-05-15 22:44  

#5  "It means that whoever wins the 2012 presidential election will have the dubious honor of presiding over the fall of the United States."

It means the next leader must have the good sense to say no to our economic destruction by a hostile, predatory mercantile power. The US has already shipped 1/2 of our industrial base to China in less than 20 years and working furiously on sending the rest. If you can't control the borders, people and goods, then you don't have a country. You are a colony.
Posted by: Zebulon Thranter9685   2011-05-15 19:13  

#4  China, Iran, Saudi, Pakistain, Russia.
Posted by: Zebulon Thranter9685   2011-05-15 18:59  

#3  I believe africa will profit the most having all the raw resources to supply chinas growth which the US buys. Africa might be at the bottom continent of power but it would also benfit if the whole chain of consumerism collapsed, because of the cheap labour.
Posted by: devilstoenail   2011-05-15 17:33  

#2  China's a bubble.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2011-05-15 16:02  

#1  China doesn't suffer from a large surplus in the lawyer caste. Nor does the lawyer caste in China believe it should be running everything in the culture.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2011-05-15 16:00  

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