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Libya: 35 pro-Gaddafi killed near Ajdabiya
2011-04-12
[Ennahar] At least 35 members of the forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Qadaffy
... a proud Arab institution for 42 years ...
 were killed near Ajdabiya in the east, Saturday and Sunday, according to the rebels who have reclaimed the city after heavy fighting.
... as opposed to the more usual light or sporadic fighting...
More than a dozen burned pickups, equipped with heavy machine guns by the pro-Qadaffy, lying on the front line between the east of the city, which was held by the rebels, and west, where were positioned pro-Qadaffy, according to an AFP journalist.

Many bodies buried in the western suburbs of the city were burned and rendered unrecognizable.

NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Originally it was a mutual defense pact directed against an expansionist Soviet Union. In later years it evolved into a mechanism for picking the American pocket while criticizing the style of the American pants...
 has conducted raids this weekend in support of the rebels to repel attacks by loyal forces in Ajdabiya, 160 km south of Benghazi, the stronghold of the rebels.

"We found a total of 35 bodies, there may be two or three more, reduced to ashes in the burned vehicles," said Jadallah Mouftah, 63, who attends the funeral of the last bodies.

"They launched a surprise attack against us but the (NATO) aircraft have emerged," said a rebel, Saleh Hassan Farez.
Posted by:Fred

#12  Carthage, or what is left of it, is in Tunisia. The Carthaginian Empire stretched around the western Mediterranean. Carthage was established by the Phoenicians from present day Lebanon.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-04-12 19:18  

#11  'Introduce me to a Carthaginian' is my refrain to the old mantra that 'war doesn't solve anything'.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2011-04-12 19:06  

#10  Where was Carthage? In or near present-day Libya somewhere. They p*ssed off the Romans one too many times and look where it got them. Might be a lesson in there someplace - for Daffy and the West.
Posted by: Glenmore   2011-04-12 18:42  

#9  The term you want to use is "going Mongol", as in Genghis Kahn. We need to pulverize Tripoli with multiple ARCLIGHT strikes, two or three hours apart, for about four or five days. The (very few) survivors can tell the rest what it was like. THEN we can dictate terms to the "winner" (I.E., whomever we allow to survive). The Arab world has never suffered a truly CRUSHING defeat since the time of Genghis Kahn. They need one, just to be reminded that the winner, not the whiner, dictates the terms. A LOT of our problems in this world would disappear if we were truly the nation of Teddy Roosevelt -- "Speak softly, but carry a BIG stick." We also need to USE that stick once in a while.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2011-04-12 14:28  

#8  BTW, has anyone else actually read the caption on the picture shown above?

ROFLMAO, Fred! :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2011-04-12 13:00  

#7  "Sorry if that sounds unpleasant."

Not to me it doesn't, Mike.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2011-04-12 12:59  

#6  Mike, I'd be more inclined to practice conservation AND develop our own energy resources so we could leave these people to their own devices. You might call it disengagement. Then they could eat sand, murder each other and suffer from their own stupidity until such time as they are all dead or, probably far less likely, a little more evolved.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2011-04-12 12:05  

#5  I agree entirely, the phrase is "Take names and kick Butt" we're past the "Take names "Part and well into the "Kick Butt' part.
So KICK ASS.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2011-04-12 10:52  

#4  ..Letting my mind run away for a moment, but I wonder how many of our problems in that Part Of The World would be solved if we just went full SPQR on them - bomb and vaporize their military toys into nothingness, wipe out the 'Death to Everybody' types, and let whoever we leave in charge know that as long as the oil flows at about, say, $50/bbl, they can do whatever they want as long as it does not involve annoying us. Something reasonably approximating a mildly authoritarian republic would be nice, but that's just us.

And then we leave, until they annoy us, then we rinse/repeat until they get the message. It would n't take more than a couple times before people might get the idea.

Sorry if that sounds unpleasant. I am just having a harder and harder time every day feeling sorry for anyone in Africa or the ME/PGR any more.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2011-04-12 10:31  

#3  Primitive warfare with modern toys. It's not so much about pitting industrial or technological edge or utilizing structured forces with specific doctrine as much as basically tribes/clans vying over territory or range or hierarchical dominance.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2011-04-12 10:03  

#2  They're Arabs. Look for a lot of firing in the general direction of, gun sex, and mustache cursing.
Posted by: Fred   2011-04-12 09:50  

#1  I've seen a lot of back and fourth, but not so much of the body counts.

I wonder of this war involves more running than fighting?
Posted by: Bobby   2011-04-12 06:07  

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