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General gives stinging rebuke to contractors
2011-02-11
The top brass at the Pentagon is signaling in no uncertain terms that the defense industry needs to clean up its act and accept that the government can no longer throw away money on ill-conceived military projects.

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz on Wednesday had some tough talk for defense contractors, saying firms must stop "blowing smoke" and over-promising about what they can deliver.

"Don't blow smoke up my ass" about what a military platform can do and when it will be ready, Schwartz told a tense and silent ballroom filled with defense industry executives. "There's no time for it. There's no patience for it. OK?"

The comments were the latest example of Pentagon officials speaking bluntly about the future of the U.S. defense sector, which they say must change rapidly to accommodate the nation's new fiscal reality.

"If industry makes a commitment, you will have to deliver," Schwartz said. "There will be less tolerance ... for not delivering."

Officials say the future of the defense sector will be considerably different from the flush days after 9/11, when companies were handed what amounted to a blank check as the country fought two wars and took on terrorism.

Now, budgets are shrinking in Washington, and this time even the military isn't immune. There is general agreement among Democrats and Republicans that defense cuts must be "on the table" as the country looks to pare back the spiraling deficit, though differences remain over how large those reductions should be.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has already announced that the service will reduce its spending by $78 billion over the next five years, and the service's austerity drive is likely to accelerate in the years ahead.

Schwartz, who is rumored to be on the short list for the next Joint Chiefs chairman, said the budget crunch means the Pentagon will have "no patience" for exaggerated weapons-sales pitches.

"Cost-control will be an issue in everything we do," from weapon programs to healthcare, the air chief said.

Contractors often focus their bids for Pentagon work on platforms and subsystems that cannot realistically be developed, tested and delivered on the proposed budget and schedule. The results typically are program delays and cost overruns that force the military to buy fewer models or cancel programs altogether.
Now, speaking as a contractor for the DoD, there is a lot of things that could be scaled back and areas cut. However, the politicians and the military are just as much to blame. Nothing like having a proposal get feature creep and every General, Colonel and Major throwing in their needs and bloating the thing to the point of uselessness. Also, the there are lots and lots of little programs that are the protected "turf" of several units and they swear the US will be left naked and defenseless against our enemies without their Windows 2000 server that no one has the budget to upgrade and is now pretty much useless.

There is lots of blame for bloated budgets to go around and you could cut billions and keep 97% of our capabilities by doing the following:

Streamline the process. Too much red tape and regulations. When an entire department of a contractor company of 30 people is spent trying to follow all the rules and regulations you know things are fucked.

Streamline systems. Cut the old shit, build the new shit with off the shelf systems that could be put in place in half the time and 10% of the cost. There is a push for doing this, but it takes forever to get software and systems approved and everyone wants their own little tweak added to it.

No more fiefdoms. That Lt. Col that whines about his Windows 2000 servers that can track one feature of the enemy? Don't need it. Guarantee it has been replaced and is traced by at least two other databases. Kill these obsolete systems.

The above will free up billions and bring systems to the battlefield quicker. Believe me, there is lots and lots more, but that is a good start.
Posted by:DarthVader

#11  Adapted COTS is the way to go for initial fielding in a hurry.
Posted by: OldSpook   2011-02-11 23:45  

#10  Want a program to cancel? Try the 2.75in air to ground rocket. It is obsolete, and we have a 30 year supply at current usage rates. The military has been trying to end production for decades. However, the manufacturer is a major contributor to Sen. Leahy (D-VT). Every year DOD removes funding for new production of this weapon and every year (the very liberal) Sen. Leahy puts it back.

The Dems view the DOD budget as pure pork. They don't care whether the system works or not.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2011-02-11 13:26  

#9  Alan Cramer,
The milking comes after several tries at doing the job more efficiently and cheaply; and getting threatened with fines/jail for doing so.

"You want me to waste your money? Here ya go!"

When I was working on the Apache helicopter, we had to generate a DD220 report for each helicopter (but there was no guidence on what the report should look like). We contacted DOD to ask what they used it for. They said they never looked at it - just checked to see if it was there. Then they filed it away and sent it to Iron Mountain. Failure to deliver was punishably by large fines. So we gave them an unreadable report and said to hell with them.
Posted by: Frozen Al   2011-02-11 13:24  

#8  Milk it deliberately, Darth? Not only deliberately but with malice aforethought. That's why they make sure that the hose for all that milk has a couple of "leaks" to keep the pols and brass well sated.

The contractors no more want the inter-agency squabbling and fiefdoms to be stopped than the people in control of the fiefs. That's why Ike labeled it a "complex".

Unfortunately rather than figuring out how to stop it, we've created more and more with every expansion of the Gov't. Areas such as Agriculture, environment and welfare, to name a few, suffer all the same.
Posted by: Alan Cramer   2011-02-11 09:46  

#7  "“Cost-control will be an issue in everything we do,” from weapon programs to healthcare, the air chief said."

Obama to DoD. No more money for Defense.
Posted by: Chater Borgia4688   2011-02-11 09:45  

#6  True Alan, but I have seen contractors milk it very deliberately.

The thing that fries me every time is when I, the engineer, want to make a change it has to go through literally 20 layers of company, government and civilian investigation before the damn thing is even considered to be approved to go forward. One small tweak, like using a newer version of software or changing the the layout a little takes me two weeks of FULL TIME running around just doing all the bullshit bureaucracy. The company charges the government $100/h for my work (believe me, I don't see nearly that much) and two weeks of going through meetings, change requests, meeting majors, civilian overseers, middle managers, etc. costs the government $8,000 just to start thinking about the approval of a simple, $180 fix.
Posted by: DarthVader   2011-02-11 08:56  

#5  However, the politicians and the military are just as much to blame

Wrong! They are much more to blame. I've worked as a contractor in a couple of very different industries. The IT stint included some military work. Everything said here about fiefdoms and scope creep (more like gallop) are more than true. I've never seen a contractor yet (or any other kind of purveyor) that wasn't under the control of the customer. The contractors can't start the process, they can just milk it.
Posted by: Alan Cramer   2011-02-11 08:46  

#4  build the new shit with off the shelf systems

Which will be unlikely as long as Congresscritters keep inserting special interest group set asides and racial preference requirements and reporting, for example, upon pure business transactions.

Congresscritters protect their own as the next generation air refuel tanker contract demonstrates. Don't win, whine and complain to force the military to adopt two systems [and double the maintenance and spare parts sustainment].

Posted by: Procopius2k   2011-02-11 08:40  

#3  For Congress. These generals are bureaucrats in uniform, not warriors. The contractors are their co-conspirators. Even Ike could see that 50 years ago. They can sense that the party is just about over and the tune is changing. They are trying to get ahead of the curve and appear to have been tea partiers for ever. They're a target rich environment.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-02-11 07:14  

#2  Methinks the lady doth protest too much. So the question becomes why and for who is the good General putting on this little bit of theater?
Posted by: SteveS   2011-02-11 01:07  

#1  I have another one (maybe this rub some people the wrong way). How about doing away with paying retired Generals a couple hundred K a yr for becoming "mentors" - whatever the f*ck that means. From what I've seen they go around and tell war stories and sit in on planning conferences. Hey, if the active duty General needs a retired "mentor" to help him w/the JOPP I think we're sorta screwed.
Posted by: Broadhead6   2011-02-11 00:51  

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