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Home Front: Politix
AZ Dem Rep Gabrielle Giffords Shot
2011-01-08
apparently point blank in the head at a campaign event in North Tucson. Say a prayer
Link Fixed
A link to Fox News courtesy of Water Modem.
Posted by:Frank G

#64  Full text of Jared Loughner “Final Thoughts”: Insane Frappe of Arizona Libertarianism
Posted by: tipper   2011-01-08 23:13  

#63  
#62  a 'favorite' has shown up on his utube site (i do not think i missed it before - ?)
link

Titled - America: Your Last Memory In A Terrorist Country!
By - Starhitshnaz's Channel
this was upped 4 months ago
Posted by: linker   2011-01-08 23:05  

#61  Man linked to Giffords shooting rampage called 'very disturbed'
Posted by: tipper   2011-01-08 22:42  

#60  A Nobel Prize winner hit a new low today:
We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. She’s been the target of violence before. And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that she’s a Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona, precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist. (Her father says that “the whole Tea Party” was her enemy.) And yes, she was on Sarah Palin’s infamous “crosshairs” list.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2011-01-08 21:43  

#59  huffy p*st

link


8:38 PM ET 2nd Perp Sought

Coppers are seeking a second perp in today's assassination attempt, Chief Constible Dupnik says.
Posted by: linker   2011-01-08 21:11  

#58  Dude was obsessed with Govt. mind control

from inf*wars dealing with his utube posts

link


also photos of him
from sm*king g*n
link
Posted by: linker   2011-01-08 21:04  

#57  Unlike Goldwater who was an Episcopalian. I guess the desert sun confuses everybody.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-01-08 20:38  

#56  fwiw, Giffords is AZ's first Jewish US Representative
Posted by: lord garth   2011-01-08 20:31  

#55  "When I heard she had been shot, my first words were "I'll bet it was a liberal who did it.""

Isn't it usually, gorb? :-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2011-01-08 20:20  

#54  Nor will the media consider that politics doesn't explain everything. Sometimes it's just straight-up kookitude. John Hinckley was mainly out to impress Jodie Foster, no? As TW points out, Loughner's views sound utterly incoherent rather than right or left. Interesting that he posted what sounds like a suicide note - yet, he lived. A failed suicide-by-cop?
Posted by: RandomJD   2011-01-08 19:56  

#53  It's kind of amusing how the media, reliably left-wing as usual, never looks at left-wing kooks. Its gaze is perpetually fixed on right-wing kooks. Kaczynski killed 3 and maimed dozens. No analysis of left-wing extremists followed. Both Kennedys were assassinated by left-wing extremists, Sirhan and Oswald. No real analysis of the movement that spawned these perps. Ditto with the guy who almost did in Reagan.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2011-01-08 19:22  

#52  This was a comment from his "favorite" video -

You leftwing assholes just don't want to face facts that the dude killed a federal judge...a Bush appointee...and a moderate Dem. congresswoman was wounded...and Jared's page shows he was a liberal...his classmates said he was a liberal. His videos show he was anti conservative. His blogs show he was liberal. So stop talking out of your asses, you stupid fucks!


Looks like he was pretty liberal. Also, on his youtube page, Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto were among his favorite literary works.

I don't know if he picked her because she happened to be closest or not, but I'll bet he thinks she isn't "left" enough.

When I heard she had been shot, my first words were "I'll bet it was a liberal who did it."
Posted by: gorb   2011-01-08 18:55  

#51  The left are making a big deal out of Sarah Palin putting a gunsight on her as one congressman targeted for election defeat. However, KOS put a bullseye on her, first.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-01-08 18:50  

#50  Catie Parker
This is a circus. Good Morning America just called me

You must mean Good Morning, Catie Parker
Posted by: badanov   2011-01-08 18:47  

#49  A woman who claims she was a classmate of his Twittered the following:

Caitie Parker @catieparker

Saying Jared Laughner was the gunman. Really hoping that's not the same guy I went to HS with, really good friend. Freaking out right now!!!

Catie Parker
Official I went to high school & college, & was in a band w/ the gunman. I can't even fathom this right now.

Catie Parker
He was a poticial radical & met Giffords once before on '07, asked her a question & he told me she was "stupid & unintelligent"

Catie Parker
He was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix, The DOors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class

Catie Parker
As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.

Catie Parker
he had a lot of friends until he got alcohol poisoning in '06, & dropped out of school. Mainly loner very philosophical.

Catie Parker
more left. I haven't seen him since '07 though. He became very reclusive.

Catie Parker
it's loughner just checked my year book.

Catie Parker
This is a circus. Good Morning America just called me.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-01-08 18:39  

#48  Someone has a shovel, I'll bring the honey.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2011-01-08 18:34  

#47  Ironically, with the bullet passing entirely through her skull case, might have been a "better" injury than had it gone in halfway and stuck. This was a discovery made in 1559 with the death of King Henry II of France, resulting in the biggest leap in knowledge about the human brain until the US Civil War.

That is, a "drain hole" prevents a very destructive, even lethal build up of blood and pressure in the brain. And the flow of blood might even wash out contamination and provide a little oxygenation to otherwise starved tissue.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-01-08 18:25  

#46  He blew a federal judge away, too. That should seal it for him.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-01-08 18:23  

#45  he shot and killed a child. F*** him. I hope he's kept in a dank dark cell til they give him the needle.
Posted by: Frank G   2011-01-08 18:20  

#44  It is unacceptable what this kid did. He shall be in the hole quite a while.
This is America, Bless all of our Representatives.
Posted by: newc   2011-01-08 18:13  

#43  IMHO it sounds like he'd describe himself as a left-wing anarchist*.

*With all that cognitive dissonance, no wonder he's insane.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2011-01-08 18:08  

#42  @tipper #39 - Krugman took down comments because he was afraid it would turn into a flame war. (Huh... ya think, Paul?)
Posted by: eLarson   2011-01-08 18:07  

#41  It seems that our shooter was an atheist but more importantly someone inimical towards those who have a spiritual life.

The MSM will surely not mention this at all in the coming days.
Posted by: no mo uro   2011-01-08 17:53  

#40  His reading list sounds like an AP English class, or the bookshelves of a parent who had a degree in English lit, not things picked up due to interest at a bookstore or library. Nobody seems to read The Phantom Tollbooth anymore, more's the pity. But anyone who's faves include both em>The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf does not live to the right (or left) of psychotic on the political spectrum.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-01-08 17:50  

#39  Krugman Sicko: Assassination Attempt In Arizona
Posted by: tipper   2011-01-08 17:45  

#38  In the modern era, the majority of political assassins in America have been leftists. If it turns out that this guy was left-wing, it would fit the pattern.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2011-01-08 17:40  

#37  Sugar in his pocket?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-01-08 17:26  

#36  I would only read that other stuff under duress of a college class assignment.
Posted by badanov 2011-01-08 17:05

Most of what I know in life, I learned from Penthouse Letters. I've been perpetually disappointed
Posted by: Frank G   2011-01-08 17:13  

#35  I would only read that other stuff under duress of a college class assignment.
Posted by badanov

Or if you enjoyed gay themes.
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-01-08 17:12  

#34  lots of phoney facebook pages are appering now
example
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001935064664

Jared LaughnerAdd as Friend


Like · 15,870 people like this.
Philosophy
People Who Inspire Jared

*
[Sara Palin]
Sara Palin
*
[Sarah Palin]
Sarah Palin

Activities and Interests
Other
Tea Party Patriots, Sara Palin

Basic Information
Sex Male
Interested In Men
Posted by: linker   2011-01-08 17:06  

#33  When I was 24, my favorite authors were Richard Condon Robert Ludlum and Joseph Wambaugh.

I would only read that other stuff under duress of a college class assignment.
Posted by: badanov   2011-01-08 17:05  

#32  #31 Shep Smith (I hate him) Frank

I suspect Smith has some sugar in his pocket. After listening to Beck's pycho-babble last evening, I'm ready to give him the boot as well.
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-01-08 17:03  

#31  Shep Smith (I hate him) had AZ State Senator Linda Lopez on - she said she'd heard he was an "Afghan War Vet". Despicable POS
Posted by: Frank G   2011-01-08 16:53  

#30  his list of favorite books is really the only thing telling about him at this point:

So, he's bookworm.
Posted by: badanov   2011-01-08 16:51  

#29  Gateway Pundit has his favorite youtube vid: burning an American flag in America: Your Last Memory In a Terrorist Country!

sounds like a real rightwinger and tea partier...not
Posted by: Frank G   2011-01-08 16:50  

#28  If the youtube channel linked above does in fact belong to the shooter, his list of favorite books is really the only thing telling about him at this point:

Books:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.
Posted by: eltoroverde   2011-01-08 16:40  

#27  His youtube

"In conclusion, reading the second United States Constitution, I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications: The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.

No! I won't pay debt with a currency that's not backed by gold and silver!

No! I won't trust in God!"
Posted by: Beavis   2011-01-08 16:39  

#26  His leanings are toward wacko. He'll be portrayed as Tea Party.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-01-08 16:35  

#25  Shooter's Favorite Books:

Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-01-08 16:30  

#24  his youtube is weird - hard to get his leanings
Posted by: Frank G   2011-01-08 16:27  

#23  Name: Jared Lee Loughner, 22.

MySpace page removed. YouTube channel still up.

Other news reports are that the bullet passed right through her brain, and that a federal judge was also killed.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-01-08 16:24  

#22  Press Conference just happened. Giffords Alive, out of surgery, doctors as optimistic as they can be in this situation. She's under anestasia(sp?). Confirmed child died at hostpital, 10 others there. 5 critical, 5 in Operating Rooms.

Obama scheduled to address Nation in 5 minutes.
Posted by: Charles   2011-01-08 16:14  

#21  22 year-old Jared Raufner identified as shooter by Fox, White male. That's all that is known. The fact he's a White Male is enough though for the idiots to start crowing.
Posted by: Charles   2011-01-08 16:07  

#20  Statement By The President
Statement From Nancy Pelosi
Sarah Palin
Posted by: tipper   2011-01-08 15:55  

#19  Waiting on hospital news conference. Already overdue, Though Fox just confirmed Federal Judge John M Roll shot and killed at event as well.
Posted by: Charles   2011-01-08 15:54  

#18  Reports now coming in that Rep. Giffords has died. One of her last public acts was voting against Pelosi for Speaker of the House. Giffords voted for some other Democrat.
Reports are saying at least 4 others are dead.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2011-01-08 15:44  

#17  I jumped over to DU and on post #15 they finally accused.....Sarah Palin. Because she was on her target map. I hope she pull through, they conivct the person(s) responsible, and execute them.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2011-01-08 15:37  

#16  Lots of conflicting reports. Some say she's died, others say she's in surgery in Tucson. There are at LEAST three dead. It'll take awhile to sort through all the garbage to find the truth. Probably won't know before late this evening or tomorrow. At least they've caught the perp.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2011-01-08 15:18  

#15  Don't know about security Chris, but probably light considering she's done this before and it was at a Family Values foodstore. Also newwest reports say Gifford is ALIVE. Which is incredible considering all reports say she was shot in the head at Point-blank range.
Posted by: Charles   2011-01-08 15:09  

#14  KOLD reporting that Giffords is still alive and in surgery!
Posted by: ryuge   2011-01-08 15:01  

#13  was there absolutely no security at this event? 1 article I read says the sheriffs office arrived at the scene too take the man in custody but you would think there would be at leats minimal local lpolice at a politcal event with a member of congress in attendance.
Posted by: chris   2011-01-08 14:56  

#12  The whole probelm with the "right-wing" theory is there alot more pulbic and better targets. I wouldn't trust gawker with my laundry.
Posted by: Charles   2011-01-08 14:53  

#11  Most likely a lone nutter. That won't stop the haters on the hard left from blaming everyone from John Boehner to Rush Limbaugh.

Prayers for Ms. Giffords soul, prayers for her family, prayers for the souls and families of all the others who were shot.
Posted by: Steve White   2011-01-08 14:53  

#10  now MSNBC says she's alive?
Posted by: Frank G   2011-01-08 14:53  

#9  La Raza supporter?
Posted by: Water Modem   2011-01-08 14:45  

#8  Gawker has this and more:
The gunman was young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down, although he struggled at first. He was "not particularly well-dressed"; he didn't look like a businessman, but more of a "fringe character," Rayle said. The sheriff's department arrived, arrested the gunman and cordoned off the parking lot.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-01-08 14:44  

#7  I wouldn't want this to happen to even Dingy Harry. This is the wrong way to go about political discourse.

More than likely, it is some weird kook that blamed her for all his problems. Wars start this way, however.
Posted by: DarthVader   2011-01-08 14:42  

#6  They always blame the right Charles - even after it's been proved otherwise - its how the Media works.

Looks like some are already blaming Sarah Palin...

Prayers to her and her family.

Posted by: CrazyFool   2011-01-08 14:38  

#5  Reading comments from yahoo to drudge links, it seems the kooky right is being blamed.

I suspect this was a Cartel or Gang hit. One report has witnesses claimg a late teens to early 20's. The spread of the shots too is sloppy. Fox has source saying Gifford is dead too, looking for another, so I expect she will be. I want to know who the shooter was NOW.
Posted by: Charles   2011-01-08 14:21  

#4  she and 6 others are dead per NPR
Posted by: Frank G   2011-01-08 14:16  

#3  Heavy traffic at the headline link right now. This link is working for now.

Terrible, depressing news.
Posted by: ryuge   2011-01-08 14:01  

#2  11 others also shot. Gunman was caught by the crowd
Posted by: Frank G   2011-01-08 13:58  

#1  Not just her, but 11 others. Some reports say she's already dead. Prayers for her and victims families.
Posted by: Charles   2011-01-08 13:58  

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