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Merkel's Climate Advisor: 'Ethical Elite' Must Rule 'Broad Majority'
2010-12-02
Link is to the interview in German. Google translation here.

Here's the money quote (cleaned up Google translation):

Q: But isn't any attempt to solve the fundamental ecological problem doomed because this is a debate among the elites?

Dr Evil Strangelove Schellnhuber: Such debates are always held among a small part of the population.

If you ask: Will there be a majority for sacrifice in order to prevent a child's Exodus
(sic!) he probably intended to say 'Exitus'
in the distant future, the initial answer will be 'no.'

But key questions such as these, as well as human rights issues should be regulated in the Constitution. That would imply that there would be judges ruling against a majority, provided that this ruling is correct according to our constitutional consensus. Thus you will also need a few people who represent an ethical elite.
My spider sense is telling me that coincidentally Schellnhuber himself will be among the 'atomic supermen''ethical elite.'
In the end, problems involving causal distance, like climate change, will not be solved with the support of a broad majority.
Western constitutions protect the individual's civil and human rights against an overreaching government and also against a possibly abusive democratic majority.

Dickless Schellnhuber is proposing a new constitutional doctrine of a radically different nature.

A self appointed elite is supposed to be given unchecked power. They're supposed to rule in the name of an unfalsifiable pseudoscientific ideology.
They're supposed to be given arbitrary absolute power over the individual.
This is exactly what constitutionally enshrined rights and limits to government power are supposed to prevent.

In the (not so) olden days the word for 'ethical elite' was 'politburo.'
Posted by:Omaing White7048

#9  I should mention that Merkel seems to have cooled a bit on global warming.
Posted by: European Conservative   2010-12-02 18:44  

#8  "Nomenklatura is a caste system that applies only to the elite class. Its many levels enjoy varying degrees of privilege according to rank. For Politburo members there is no limit or restriction on privileges. Below this level the grading structure begins. The Central Committee defines the place of anyone eligible for inclusion in the various categories: high party apparatchiki, Cabinet ministers, diplomats or individuals with unusual abilities or exceptional talents such as artists, scientists, Olympic champions and the like. Factory workers, farmers, engineers, lawyers, doctors, store managers and other private citizens are excluded.

Members of the elite have extensive privileges: high salaries, good apartments, dachas, cars with chauffeurs, special railway cars and accommodations, VIP treatment at airports, resorts and hospitals off limits to outsiders, special schools for their children, access to stores selling consumer goods and food at reduced prices. They live far removed from the common man and, indeed, have to go out of their way if they wish to rub elbows with the less exalted. The highest group in the nomenklatura is separated from most citizens by a barrier as psychologically imposing as the Great Wall of China. This class constitutes virtually a state within a state."


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,960302,00.html#ixzz16yrPz4g8
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313   2010-12-02 13:45  

#7  Remember, they're not elite, they're just overly-credentialed ...
Posted by: Steve White   2010-12-02 13:06  

#6  And that is where the theory falls on its face. There are only so many ethical elite slots to fill, so there will be compitition among those who consider themselves appropriate for the task - so they jockey and maneuver to fill those slots and the effective ruthless get the job where the ethical get kicked out. Then they solidify their position to prevent their own ouster, but only by those who are less ruthless than themselves.

The only way it works is if there is a 100% ethical population to work from. Blow that idea with two examples:

Al Gore - well documented

Sheryl Crow - carbon guzzling tours and house. Decides to sell the house, ok. But rather than demolish the house and donate the property to be a park or something she takes the money and runs.

And what would be the strict definition of the right kind of ethical? Is forced sterilization and/or permits to have children ethical, and how would it be enforced? Look at military drafts, always seemed like the fortunate sons, as it was said, were able to find a way out or around (ironically, that included the singer of said song) while the poor had to bite the bullet. Is that the model?

Would it be by some popularity vote? No controversy with the dancing show eh? Then by computer...which one: Zardoz, Gort, Hal, Skynet, Matrix? Of course even if a pure program were installed it could never be changed, corrupted files, hacked..nope no non imposible.

We already see the justification of using lights containing mercury in favor of less pollution, the euthanasia of working vehicles in favor of production intensive green cars rather than letting the cycle over occur naturally. At what timeline would it be considered ethically pure to justify a nuclear strike against industrial centers where the strike's pollution pays for itself over x years considering the factory pollution, carbon footprint of people and vehicles, with radiation sterilization a bonus to add onto?

At least the divine right of kings has some sort of established cultural accountability. Perhaps the more appropriate phrase would be Masters looking for Slaves.

I'm not against good environmentalism - nobody likes to shit in their own bed or neighbors garbage thrown into one's kitchen - but this behind the scenes smokey room authoritarianism should give pause to both believers and non-believers. You believers need to realize that your good intentions are being used as a sales pitch, this is your version of the corporate logo wearing slave and now you, too, are suckers.

/rant
Posted by: swksvolFF   2010-12-02 12:06  

#5  'ethical' : That is the key word here. They will define how you live based on what THEY define as ethical.
Posted by: Phack Jones3952   2010-12-02 11:26  

#4  and making it hereditary will make it even better.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2010-12-02 10:25  

#3  'Ethical Elite' Must Rule 'Broad Majority'

I am nearly certain that Madame Nancy Pelosi would agree with that statement and indeed would find it unremarkable.

Our de facto social-democrat party is just coy about saying such things in public. It might disturb the 'natives.'
Posted by: Free Radical   2010-12-02 10:08  

#2  ethical elite = divine right of kings

Newspeak 2010 edition
Posted by: Procopius2k   2010-12-02 09:51  

#1  Cannibals All!: Or, Slaves Without Masters, by George Fitzhugh (1857).
Posted by: Anonymoose   2010-12-02 09:34  

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