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An early goodbye to the HMS Ark Royal
2010-10-19
And hello to the scrap heap
Posted by:Water Modem

#9  Also from KHALEEJ TIMES > BRITAIN TO END HISTORIC BASES IN GERMANY BY 2020 [1/2 of UK forces to be out by 2015, rest by 2020].
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-10-19 21:15  

#8  They wanna build a knowingly cost-prohibitive QUEEN ELIZABETH-Class CVF in order to immediately mothball of them + then sell it afterward.

* OTOH RENSE > {Telegraph.UK] BRITAIN ENTERS "AGE OF UNCERTAINTY", according to a Report-Study from UK National Security Council.

ARTIC = BY YEAR 2020, LOCAL, REGIONAL EXTREMISTS may increasingly decide to stop verbal or diplomatic dialogues + begin to use VIOLENT ARMED FORCE = e.g. TERROR STRIKES, CAMPAIGNS TO ENFORCE THEIR GOALS.

Methinks its safe to say that the US + CHINA + WORLD, including GUAM-WESTPAC, WILL ENTER SAID SAME "AGE OF UNCERTAINTY", not just the UK or Euros.

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > LAST SYMBOL OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE SINKS.

ARTIC > Britain-UK's famed "Most Sneior Service", formerly the ROYAL NAVY, IS NOW THE "US AIR FORCE" [ + by extens the USDOD].

NO SURPRISE THERE.

IMO "USAF" read, US AEROSPACE FORCE = OWG US SPACE FORCE, no longer merely the AIR FORCE.
JUST WAITING FOR YEAR 2015-20/2025 FOR THE OWG-NWO USDOD + US CONGRESS [USAF = "...iff that is its Real Name" Anymore] TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL.

By these MoD cuts, the UK is trying hard NOT to say it has the USA + USDOD to cover its six, + only needs NATO, EU-level GMD-TMD + "DEFENSIVE" CONVENTIONAL, NUCLEAR FORCES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-10-19 21:07  

#7  They could sell it to the Mongolian Navy
Posted by: Skunky Glins****   2010-10-19 20:44  

#6  Looking further at the charter, it reads:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all...

And in Article 6:
For the purpose of Article 5, an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack:

* on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, on the Algerian Departments of France (2), on the territory of or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer;
* on the forces, vessels, or aircraft of any of the Parties, when in or over these territories or any other area in Europe in which occupation forces of any of the Parties were stationed on the date when the Treaty entered into force or the Mediterranean Sea or the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer.


So, in my un-lawyer view, the treaty states that the Falklands are fucked if teh 0ne does not choose to aid the English. And seeing how he has treated them, I would bet he would let the Falklands fall.
Posted by: DarthVader   2010-10-19 19:01  

#5  But does that NATO charter include British Overseas Territory or just England proper?
Posted by: DarthVader   2010-10-19 18:51  

#4  Bulldog,

If you had the right people in place in government, they'd publicly point out that fact of Brits in Afghanistan, to include the point that Afghanistan is not in the immediate vicinity of NATO and then invoke the NATO charter requiring members help defend their territory or that of the others as they request the US uphold its part of the treaty by sending a full naval/marine task force to liberate the islands. Make or break time.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2010-10-19 17:05  

#3  Precisely right, Anonymoose.

And given that the bastard Obama (who expects the UK to maintain its presence in Afghanistan) gave the tacit green light to an invasion a few months ago, it would be very interesting to see how things would pan out, second time around.
Posted by: Bulldog   2010-10-19 14:14  

#2  The final lights are being turned off in good ol' England.

This really reminds me of the Romans abandoning Britain to try to preserve some other parts of their empire. Only now, the English are abandoning themselves to save some other parts of their crumbling socialist society. The Roman example didn't work since the Western Roman empire fell anyway. I doubt the new modern approach will work either.
Posted by: DarthVader   2010-10-19 10:22  

#1  Invasion of the Falklands beginning in 5...4...3...
Posted by: Anonymoose   2010-10-19 09:45  

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