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Home Front: Culture Wars
Iraq Veteran Stripped of Right To Bear Arms
2010-09-04
Diagnosed with PTSD, The V.A. declared Wayne Irelan incompetent and now his right to own a gun is gone.
An excerpt:
The couple didn't know Wayne's gun rights had been terminated until they went to get a gun out of pawn. Days later Wayne got a letter from the Arkansas State Police saying his concealed carry permit had been revoked. The ATF has told the Irelans that they could go to jail if a firearm is found in their home.
Posted by: Anonymoose

#14  Glenmore: the more the government works to disenfranchise those who have fought for them, the easier rebellion against the union becomes to conceive.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2010-09-04 21:08  

#13  Our government seems to take any opportunity to restrict our ability to bear arms - 'never let a crisis go to waste.' They confiscated guns here during Katrina (and despite court order, have returned very few in usable condition.) They have used Hurricane Earl as an excuse to limit gun transport in NC. (Note that both LA and NC are generally speaking gun-friendly states!) Using PTSD as a blanket excuse to take guns away fits the model (specific cases, for necessary times, is probably appropriate.)
What the 'people' seem to be ignorant of, but the government is VERY aware of, is that the Second Amendment was written for one specific reason - to make it less difficult for the people to rise up and overthrow the government. I doubt it will ever come to that, because the government has been very effective at taking over the education process, such that there are just not very many people left who CAN even concieve of rebelling against the government.
Posted by: Glenmore   2010-09-04 20:16  

#12  I don't understand why Shipman is being warned. So we can't piss people off anymore? I took Shipman's post as a warning against over-reacting. Dopey me.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2010-09-04 20:14  

#11  
Shipman: for some reason you've developed a talent for pissing off multiple people. That's unfortunate, though perhaps you have a future as a Democrat. In the meantime, we mods are unhappy that you're causing trouble for the Burg.

You know the rules. Play by them. Consider this a final opportunity.

AoS
Posted by: Steve White   2010-09-04 13:57  

#10  I am tired of these long-running feuds. OldSpook, you and Shipman don't like each other, and that's fine. But I see no reason why the rest of us have to put up with it. I sinktrapped your comment, above, for that reason.
Posted by: trailing wife   2010-09-04 13:05  

#9  By the way this oughta be more under non-WOT than WOT-background.

Have a good holiday weekend all, Im goin fishing.
Posted by: OldSpook   2010-09-04 11:57  

#8  Just ignore Shitman. He's a fucking idiot, as he proves every time he posts, and when he uses alternate nyms - he's too much of a pussy to man up and keep to one name.
Posted by: OldSpook   2010-09-04 11:53  

#7  Ship, that statement is too dumb by half even for you!

No...that seems about right.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man   2010-09-04 11:44  

#6  When a government ceases to be a custodian of our rights and starts being a preventative agent, abuses occur. A lot of abuses.

Ship, that statement is too dumb by half even for you!
Posted by: badanov   2010-09-04 11:34  

#5  Our gun laws are totally fucked up, first they come for the felons, then the so called insane, then the so called incompetents, soon... very soon, morons will join the list.

At that point I fear for our Republic.
Posted by: Shipman   2010-09-04 11:25  

#4  This happened to a good friend of mine who did two tours in Vietnam as a Marine. He later became a police officer. He lost his rights to carry or own a firearm. One declared incompetent, it is nearly impossible to get out from under the label. Your Constitutional rights are severely limited--worse than a convicted criminal. A convicted criminal in many cases can have his rights restored. Our gun laws are totally f*cked up.
Posted by: JohnQC   2010-09-04 10:15  

#3  I could see restricting his access to firearms if he had shown a violent form of PTSD, but that's about it. I'd also expect them to lift it when he got things sorted out. Even if he can't use or buy them, but why can't his wife? She's not PTSD or have any restrictions? I mean how many PTSD folks have gone around and a gun blitz? Isn't there far more Postal employees and communist, eco-terrorists doing this? Besides the fact, wouldn't he be more suicidal than attack another? Maybe I'm just speaking out my backside, but oh well.
Posted by: msicellaneous   2010-09-04 08:37  

#2  Our gun laws are totally f*cked up.
Posted by: badanov   2010-09-04 00:33  

#1  ATF. Weren't they Bill Clinton's gustapo back when he was POTUS? Looks like Hussein has his little group of enforcers.
Posted by: Angirong Hupaviger9578   2010-09-04 00:24  

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