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Europe
Court stops UK handing four terrorism suspects to US
2010-07-09
[Dawn] European human rights judges on Thursday froze the extradition of four men from Britain to the United States because of concerns over the length of the jail terms they would receive if convicted on terrorism charges.

The European Court of Human Rights wants more time to consider whether to block the extradition request because of the possibility the men could be jailed for life without parole.

The four suspects, who are being held in British prisons, appealed to the European court after senior judges in London upheld a government decision in 2008 to approve the extradition.

One of the men, Egyptian-born Abu Hamza, is a radical preacher who applauded the 9/11 attacks. A London court jailed him for seven years in 2006 for incitement to murder and other offences.

The United States accuses him of plotting to set up a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon, advocating violence in Afghanistan and plotting to seize 16 hostages in Yemen.

The three others fighting the US extradition request are Britons Babar Ahmad, Seyla Talha Ahsan and Haroon Rashid Aswat.

Washington accuses all four of membership of al Qaeda or being involved in acts of international terrorism, the European court, based in Strasbourg, France, said on its website.

Aswat faces charges of being Hamza's co-conspirator in setting up the Oregon camp. Ahmad and Ahsan are accused of plotting to kill US nationals, money laundering and giving support to the Taliban and Chechen militants.

The European court rejected the suspects' argument that they would not receive a fair trial in the US courts.

The judges also dismissed suggestions the men might be declared "enemy combatants" and therefore become liable to the death penalty or extraordinary rendition, the practice of secretly sending suspects overseas for questioning.

However, the judges said they wanted more time to consider the human rights implications of the long prison terms the men would receive if found guilty in the United States.

Hamza, Ahmad and Ahsan could be jailed for life without parole, while Aswat faces a maximum 50-year term, meaning he would be 78 before being considered for release.

The judges also had concerns about the maximum security prison in Colorado where three of the men would probably be held. Hamza, who is blind in one eye, has diabetes and has lost both his forearms, is thought unlikely to be sent there.
The court will consider whether conditions in the Colorado prison would breach article three of the European Convention on Human Rights that prohibits "inhuman or degrading treatment".

The British government has until Sept. 2 to respond to the court's decision. The judges will give a final ruling later.
Posted by:Fred

#8  This kind of sh$$ is just another piece of evidence that the European Union is a suicide pact. The failure to deal harshly with criminals, including a death penalty for repeat murderers and other societally dangerous habitual criminals, will only encourage lawlessness and loss of respect for the rule of law. What we're seeing in Europe is the result of fifty years of socialistic practices that lead to the destruction of state institutions and common sense. It's a disease that has been transmitted to the United States, and must be dealt with before it becomes fatal here as well. The way the US government addresses the southern border issue indicates the disease is well-established, and will take some serious medicine to eradicate.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2010-07-09 15:27  

#7  Screw it. Whack 'em in place. And slap the judges around in the process.
Posted by: mojo   2010-07-09 11:10  

#6  Give them a house next to the EU Judges that thinks they are harmless.

I have to agree ..

There is a large undercurrent of feeling in the UK at the moment that we should re-write the UK Human Rights Act and pull out of Europe. In a few years I expect we will be the same old UK that most folk world wide knew to respect .


Hamza, who is blind in one eye, has diabetes and has lost both his forearms....

Blind , lost both forearms ... He says its from clearing mines .. I say its from making IEDs which fits his resume more

Oooh and I kid you not , his original name was Mustafa Kamel Mustafa
Posted by: Oscar   2010-07-09 09:52  

#5  A quality marinade is everything.
Posted by: Black Bart Shick7973   2010-07-09 08:09  

#4  I like the taste of my shoe, even without catchup.
Posted by: miscellaneous   2010-07-09 07:10  

#3  You suspect President Obama wants to lead the United States into the European Union? That indeed is headline news, perhaps you have a link to the story?

This is a major scoop, kudos to you.
Posted by: Black Bart Shick7973   2010-07-09 07:05  

#2  Britain wanted to become part of the EU inorder to form the greater European States, or some thing like that. This would imply giving up national interests and identity. Doesn't surprise me. What worries me more is I think Obama wants the US to follow.
Posted by: miscellaneous   2010-07-09 06:50  

#1  So I really am at a loss here. The Britts said they should go to the US But an EU court says no, that the US will employ cruel and unusual punishment on them. So just who is running Britton? I'm confused. Christ, just let them go if they are harmless. Give them a house next to the EU Judges that thinks they are harmless.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2010-07-09 00:26  

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