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China-Japan-Koreas
What Does China Want from Kim Jong-il?
2010-05-05
Defectors who were senior officials in the North say it is a myth that China is unconditionally on North Korea's side. They suggest that China may have summoned Kim not in order to side with him but to get an explanation of the sinking of South Korean Navy corvette Cheonan. One North Korean defector said, "China may want hear Kim's explanation before making its final decision about how to deal with the Cheonan issue."

Another defector said, "To South Korea, it might seem to be China which accepted Kim's wish to visit, but it could be the other way round. It may be that China called up Kim to get a responsible answer." Hwang Jang-yop, a former secretary of the North Korean Workers' Party, recently said China apparently does not want to give massive aid to North Korea. "If Kim goes to China to request economic aid, Beijing will definitely demand something in return, which is highly likely to be economic reforms and an end to hereditary succession."

Within the Communist Party of China, there is apparently a great deal of resistance to letting Kim's third son Jong-un succeed him for fear that this would lay the Chinese model of socialism open to ridicule. Beijing is said to be unhappy that Pyongyang keeps demanding help without accommodating the Chinese model of economic reform and opening.

Defectors said what China wants is for North Korea to carry out Chinese-style reforms whoever leads the country, so it can develop stably under Chinese influence. They said Beijing could use the Cheonan disaster as catalyst to apply more pressure.
All this is nonsense, and I post it so that you can see the nonsense.

China is not pressuring the Norks. China and Kimmie are on the same side. China has no intention of disciplining Kim, to the contrary, they're coordinating strategy. Right now the strategy is to put pressure on Bambi and the ROK President Lee and thereby bully them into concessions -- like, for example, restarting the 6-way talks with direct negotiations between the Norks and the U.S.

Seizing the land at Mt. Kumgang, sinking the Cheonan, testing nukes, testing long-range missiles, and staging other provocations are part of this strategy. It's done to unbalance us. They got concessions from George Bush, and Bambi isn't nearly as tough as GWB, so they think they can get more concessions. They'll continue to push, and allowing the sinking of the Cheonan to go without a response will embolden both Kim and the Chinese to push even harder.

China proclaims its good faith as it indulges and supports Kim. It proclaims its good faith as it continues its buildup against Taiwan, a buildup of a blue-water navy, and a build-up in Tibet and at the approaches to India. Gee, you think China is up to something?

Yes they are. China intends to be the super-power of the 21st century. It has a plan to get there. Weak American presidents make that easier.
Posted by:Steve White

#7  ECONOMIST.com > SCARING THE SALARYMEN: FEARS OF FOREIGN TAKEOVERS MAY SPUR CHANGE IN CORPORATE JAPAN | CHINESE FIRMS BUY JAPANESE ONES.

Chinese companies are SUPER DUPER HUNGRY TO ACQUIRE, LEARN SKILLS-N-TECHNOLOGIES from around the World.

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM/BHARAT RAKSHAK > CHINA GETTING AGGRESSIVE - ECONOMICALLY, NAVAL, AND NUCLEAR; + INDIA SET TO LOSE 90,000 SQUARE KILOMETERS TO CHINA, ASIAN WATER SECURITY THREATENED [PRC's new Tsang Po River dam project as affecting INDJUH'S BRAHMMUPUTRA RIVER].

** WMF > US EXPERTS: REGIONALLY DISPUTED SOUTH CHINA SEAS ISLANDS, RESOURCES NOW AN IMPORTANT "NATIONAL CORE INTEREST", STRATEGIC MILPOL FRONT FOR CHINA AS TIBET AND TAIWAN. TRANSFORMATION OR RESTRUCTURING OF PLAN, PLAAF, AND PLA SECOND ARTILLRY ROCKET FORCES FOR SUSTAINED LR OPERATIONS IN EAST ASIA AND WESTPAC.

* SAME > SOUTH KOREAN MEDIAS: KIM JONG-IL IN CHINA TO OFFER NORTH KOREAN DE-NUCLEARIZATION IN EXCHANGE FOR INCREASED CHINESE ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE AND CHIN-APPROVED INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE. CHIN SUPPORT, DIPLOMATIC PUSH FOR RESUMED SIX-PARTY TALKS WIDOUT RETALIATION AGZ NORTH KOREA FOR "CHEONAN" INCIDENT???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-05-05 23:11  

#6  there is a difference between Mahjong and Chess.

The chinese elite don't play mahjong. They play Go, in which the objective is to surround the opponent so as to highly limit his moves, while controlling / influencing as much territory as possible.
Posted by: lotp   2010-05-05 19:29  

#5  Keep him, I hope.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2010-05-05 13:45  

#4  Yes, but the Chinese don't want it to get out of hand. A little miscalculation like the Serbian secret police with the Black Hand played in 1914 could have similar consequences of destroying economic and political ambitions.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2010-05-05 08:58  

#3  As soon as it happened I thought there was a Chinese hand in the sinking. They set to gain, whatever happens.

Im sure Japan aint too happy with whats going off , no wonder their folk reneged on Okinowa and are so keen on defence progs
Posted by: Oscar   2010-05-05 06:15  

#2  ION CATE CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [Spacewar.com]VIETNAM SPENDS BILYUHNS ON ISLANDS AMID CHINA DISPUTE, Regionally disputed SOUTH CHINA SEAS ARCHIPELAGOES, inlcud but not limited to SPRATLEY'S + PARACELS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-05-05 02:00  

#1  Not to mention a strange new alliance protruding with Russia. All though, there is a difference between Mahjong and Chess.
Posted by: newc   2010-05-05 00:55  

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